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4th October 09, 01:39 AM
#1
Jock
I take it that Marines consider themselves brothers in arms the world over! 
Can the same can be said for US Navy Seals and the likes of the SBS and SAS, folks?
Slainte
Bruce
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4th October 09, 02:18 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by Stratherrick
Jock
I take it that Marines consider themselves brothers in arms the world over!
Can the same can be said for US Navy Seals and the likes of the SBS and SAS, folks?
Slainte
Bruce
You do realize that your question and my answer could start WW3! 
I am not actually sure of the history of the US Marine Corps, but at a guess they copied----could see the sense of-----Our Royal Marines,SAS,SBS. As my now retired son says," everyone else has Marines we(Britain) have Royal Marines"! As I understand it the SAS/SBS has had an input into training special forces from all over the world including the USA. In this part of the world we are proud of the fact that the Commandos(RM) trained many Americans for special operations in WW2. There is huge respect all around the globe for these special, tough and brave men from whichever country they come from.
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4th October 09, 02:51 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
You do realize that your question and my answer could start WW3!
I am not actually sure of the history of the US Marine Corps, but at a guess they copied----could see the sense of-----Our Royal Marines,SAS,SBS. As my now retired son says," everyone else has Marines we(Britain) have Royal Marines"! As I understand it the SAS/SBS has had an input into training special forces from all over the world including the USA. In this part of the world we are proud of the fact that the Commandos(RM) trained many Americans for special operations in WW2. There is huge respect all around the globe for these special, tough and brave men from whichever country they come from.
Just remember Britain doesnt have Royal Marines. The UK does though!
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
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4th October 09, 03:01 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Paul.
Just remember Britain doesnt have Royal Marines. The UK does though!
To us old codgers we live in Britain, Great Britain as we used to be known(Great meaning, the whole Island mass of Britain, not the modern usage and meaning of great meaning, "super" or "wonderful"). Don't forget the Battle of Britain, the British Army and the British fleet! Not this new fangled idea of the UK!
Last edited by Jock Scot; 4th October 09 at 03:11 AM.
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4th October 09, 03:27 AM
#5
UK....
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
To us old codgers we live in Britain, Great Britain - Not this new fangled idea of the UK! 
New fangled Jock? The United Kingdom came into being in 1603 with the Union of the Crowns, Britain didn't come into being for another 103 years in 1707 - not so new fangled methinks,
AND- sorry Jock, I have to be at odds with you again, but in the nicest possible way I hope.
I normally never wear badges on my lapels, except for my medals if the function requires it. However, at the Gathering, my American Chief and his good Lady presented us with Clan Badges to wear on our jackets.
It would have been churlish not to do so I thought, although it is rarely done here, our American Clanspeople tend to set great store by them, I really have no problem with it either way - the added dimension that all our folks from the new world add to kilt wearing is like a breath of fresh air at times, even though I could never bring myself to do or wear some of the things that they embrace.
GOOD ON THEM...
Tom...
Me wearing Badges

Oh, and if its good enough for this fella, its good enough for me...

He who laughs last - laughs longest......
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4th October 09, 04:26 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by Urchurdan
Me wearing Badges

I wish I bought one of those Gathering badges! They were a lot more expensive on the day so I had hoped to buy some of the website when I got home and they're out of stock.
Speaking of this - I ordered a Gathering t-shirt 2 months ago and it still hasnt arrived!
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
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13th October 09, 03:33 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Urchurdan
Oh, and if its good enough for this fella, its good enough for me...

Prince Charles is very much a 'man of the people' and is interested in what people do and how they do it. If he is the Patron or member of an organisation he will wear the membership badge when next he visits them. He does this because it is important to the members of that organisation and Prince Charles knows it. We see him here at a highland games and the badges he is wearing would be of 'Scottish Country Pursuits'.
Regards
Chas
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4th October 09, 04:10 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
To us old codgers we live in Britain, Great Britain as we used to be known(Great meaning, the whole Island mass of Britain, not the modern usage and meaning of great meaning, "super" or "wonderful"). Don't forget the Battle of Britain, the British Army and the British fleet! Not this new fangled idea of the UK! 
I see what you mean Jock but the term is very much generalized... even by Gordon Brown and most other politicians!
To me Britain is an island. The UK is a union of countries - including one outside the island of Britain so it could be seen as exclusive to make no reference to the entire kingdom.
I appreciate that the term "British" can be used to describe a citizen of the UK - or of course if people would rather reference to themselves as Scottish, English, Welsh, Northern Irish or even Irish I think that would be fair enough - as these are still countries.
EDIT - thanks for the input Urchurdan!
and I can accept that people tend to generalize when speaking of the UK. Sadly many of those overseas could just as easily refer to it as "England"!
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
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4th October 09, 04:18 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by Paul.
I see what you mean Jock but the term is very much generalized... even by Gordon Brown and most other politicians!
To me Britain is an island. The UK is a union of countries - including one outside the island of Britain so it could be seen as exclusive to make no reference to the entire kingdom.
I appreciate that the term "British" can be used to describe a citizen of the UK - or of course if people would rather reference to themselves as Scottish, English, Welsh, Northern Irish or even Irish I think that would be fair enough - as these are still countries.
EDIT - thanks for the input Urchurdan!
and I can accept that people tend to generalize when speaking of the UK. Sadly many of those overseas could just as easily refer to it as "England"!
We are heading into dangerous waters here, verging on talking about politics! All I will say, as far as I am concerned, I am British,Scottish section, and I consider that I live in Britain. Not the UK.
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4th October 09, 04:24 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
We are heading into dangerous waters here, verging on talking about politics! All I will say, as far as I am concerned, I am British,Scottish section, and I consider that I live in Britain. Not the UK. 
It's no more political than someone saying America doesn't just consist of USA. Technically you're from Scotland, on the island of Britain, in the union of the UK, in the union of the EU, on the continent of Europe, on Earth.
Whatever you like to refer to your nationality, country or region is whatever you would rather say.
Personally - I'm a Glaswegian, Scottish Earthling and no more
perhaps I could find a badge to reflect this?
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom -- for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.
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