Jacket patterns

[Nighthawk]

I have mentioned the same thing in the past. I had the idea to get myself a one button Eaton jacket, put a silver thistle button on it, and wear it with my kilts. I was shot down, so I decided not to get the jacket. The more I look at Eatons, the more I like them. Why is not acceptable to wear one with a kilt? They look like the right length. From the history I've read on them, they started out as full formal tailcoats, with the tails hacked off. So it would seem to stand to reason that they should be acceptable as formal attire. So you know what? I think I'm going to get one. It wouldn't be appropriate for weddings, I don't think, but for most other occasions that aren't strict black tie? I'll get an inexpensive and post pictures for critique.

[Bugbear]

Good luck, Nighthawk. Like I have said, I'm still trying to figure out which jacket is which... I don't even have a kilt jacket yet.

[Phil]

Good luck, Nighthawk. Like I have said, I'm still trying to figure out which jacket is which... I don't even have a kilt jacket yet.

I think this is what you call a "Montrose". It is also known as a "Military" doublet -


This is what I would call a Montrose a.k.a. a "Kenmore" doublet -


Finally a "Sheriffmuir" doublet. This is my first choice as it expands around a growing waistline and, because it is open, is a much cooler jacket to wear, despite being also a very formal jacket. -

[Erisianmonkey]

...If you are good at reading 19th century pattern books, there is this: http://www.costumes.org/HISTORY/vict...ages/13_22.htm ...

I can damn well learn, that is almost exactly what I want in a kilt jacket, and can be adapted to what I want. Thanks, man!

EDIT TO ADD: Okay, I've had a really good look at that site. I am over the moon! WOW!!!! There are so many good things about that book I just cant say. Several of the other patterns can be adapted to kilt wear and they even have a pattern "for the corpulent!" Being as I am the size of a small car, this just rocks my world, as most people have no idea what a pain in the pleats it is trying to adapt patterns made for a thin man for use on a fat one-this book has it built in. And being able to download the book in PDF rocks as I can blow it up to whatever size I need to read the little inscriptions in the illustrations!


@Nighthawk: Who gave you trouble about an Eton jacket? I seem to recall that several of our members here have Eton jackets that they wear with their kilts. In fact, while I don't feel like doing a search on that, I know it's the case, because I still trip on over to uniformalwearhouse.com on occasion to think about getting one myself when I get the money- and I know that I found out about that site here.

[gilmore]

In an earlier thread Kevin was of the oppinion that it is difficult to make a good jacket without a tailor's form, a dummy. Some one---I think it was Moondog---posted a simple description for making one customized for one's own size and shape out of an old T shirt, duct tape and stuffing. You might want to do a search for it.

[ThreadBbdr]

I'd totally forgotten about Tara's site! She's to costume history what Barb is to kilts.

I audited her class one semester MANY years ago. Good to know she's still around!

[greenguzzi]

I'd think that you ought to be able to modify the Folkwear #152 pattern for a PC to make it into a Montrose.

http://www.folkwear.com/152.html

I ordered that, and it arrived yesterday. Very nice! And my wife says that there are a few other patters there that she would like to get. Thanks for the link!

[DailyLunatic]

Finally a "Sheriffmuir" doublet. This is my first choice as it expands around a growing waistline and, because it is open, is a much cooler jacket to wear, despite being also a very formal jacket. -

I've been looking for a Sheriffmuir pattern for years. Please tell me that you did this yourself and can share your source for pattern.

If not, then perhaps someone else in the forum knows of a source for pattern, or knows where modification instructions might be found.

Thanking you in advance.
Sterling

[MacLowlife]

I have commissioned my dear sainted mother to build me a velvet Montrose based on that Civil War uniform pattern. I complained loudly about the seam running down the middle of the chest piece, but noticed on another ( store bought) one that it is there, too. Seems / seams out of place to me, but what do I know?

MacLowlife

[McMurdo]

I've got a Montrose Doublet, here is a close up of the seam, mine does not go all the way down, and is covered up with the Jabot when worn