I think this place has developed entirely too much angst...

[Alan H]

Alan, I'd like to thank you for tossing the hand grenade . . ., oops , I mean, for starting this thread. It contains many of the best posts I've read in a while. There is room for all of us in this forum, even if some of us (from all points of the kilt-wearing compass) feel like tearing our hair out every once every now and then.

Thanks. It's a good thing I'm bald, already.

For the record, I am positively allergic to the word "Fashion" when applied to Men. "Fashion" is for wealthy women who don't have anything else to do with their time. Wealthy, useless women follow "fashion". Men put on clothes and get something DONE, and worrying about the color of your pocket handkerchief or your garter ties is NOT "getting something DONE".

The above is just my humble opinion, of course...IMHO, IMHO.

I am also violently allergic to the words "rule".."correct"...and "proper" when it comes to clothes. to me, they smack of worrying WAY too much about things, and getting clothes WAY out of proportion in terms of their importance. IMHO..IMHO..

There's a difference between "rule"..."correct"..."proper"... and the basic concept of treating people with respect and using common sense when you put on clothes for the day, or evening, or whatever.

'nuff of this. it's just pissing me off, and "kilts" and an "online kilt forum" are in NO way, whatsoever, worth getting seriously pissed off about.

[Smayniac]

For the record, I am positively allergic to the word "Fashion" when applied to Men. "Fashion" is for wealthy women who don't have anything else to do with their time. Wealthy, useless women follow "fashion". Men put on clothes and get something DONE, and worrying about the color of your pocket handkerchief or your garter ties is NOT "getting something DONE".(SNIP)

don't publish that opinion to widely Alan, I'll be out of a job, or at least less employed than I am currently.

I really don't think anyone who wears this:



can be accused of taking "fashion" very seriously.

Bob

[KD Burke]

For the record, I am positively allergic to the word "Fashion" when applied to Men. "Fashion" is for wealthy women who don't have anything else to do with their time. Wealthy, useless women follow "fashion". Men put on clothes and get something DONE, and worrying about the color of your pocket handkerchief or your garter ties is NOT "getting something DONE".

You know, I also have an aversion to the word "fashion." To me it smacks of anorexic models draped in outlandish and impractical costumes and of people who pay exhorbitant prices for the priveledge of bragging about the "original" garment they purchase.

But I must point out that appropriate attire is necessry to "get something DONE." There are occasions which call for a business suit, just as there are occasions which call for work clothes. You must adjust your attire to suit your task, else you risk failure in your endeavor.

This forum draws people from every conceivable background. We are limited in our conversation to words on a screen, and have no context to read them with. We must each realize that:

(a) the words we type may be misunderstood, taken out of context, or interpreted by someone with a very different outlook from our own, and;

(b) the words we read are not (generally speaking) intended to insult, offend or stifle creativity.

They are only opinions, folks. You pays your money and you takes your choice!

[Panache]

Fashion (when referring to clothing) is simply the dominant styles and "look" for a particular time and this term covers all sorts of different categories ranging from casual work clothes to white tie level formality.

Haute couture is something else. It is the cutting edge precursor of what may influence the Fashion of the times.

Looking at Highland attire in the context of Fashion is absolutely fascinating. The look, cut, and fit of the kilt and kilt jackets and the accessories worn have changed little since the 1930s. Yet it isn’t a period costume! If you look at the highland attire sported in the movie “I know where I am Going“ would any of it look out of place today at a highland gathering or other Scottish event? (If you haven’t seen this charming movie go get it and watch it right now!). So classic highland attire seems to be timeless and works as well now in 2009 as it did in 1939.

But at the same time people like Howie Nicholsby can branch off classic highland attire to create cutting edge Haute couture! Like it or hate it, it is current.

Then you have Utilikilts, R-Kilts, Ameri-Kilts, Freedom Kilts, and all the rest that have taken the basic idea of the kilt and run with it in a utilitarian way making a completely practical work garment for the modern world.

If that wasn’t all then you have folks like USA Kilts and Sport Kilts going for a traditional look but with modern materials. How about our own Stevie Baby at Freedom Kilts that liked the look of the traditional kilt but came up with his own method of interior construction so he could incorporate pockets!

I hope that our traditionalist hold fast to those traditions and pass them on to the next generation of kilt wearers. I also hope there are always those in the next generation that dare to make their mark on kilts and highland attire to make it their own.

The kilt is classic, modern, traditional, individualistic, cutting edge, historical and ultimately timeless.

Pretty impressive for a garment that started off as a bit of cloth that used to be wrapped around a cold naked highlander and was secured with a belt and a pin!

So learn the rules, respect that there are rules, then go forth and decide how you will or will not follow them.

Let's hope in 3009 folks are still debating kilts and highland attire and that they are still classic, modern, traditional, individualistic, cutting edge, historical and ultimately timeless.

Cheers

Jamie

:ootd: :blimp: ith:

[Woodsheal]

There's also a generational aspect in play. I'm in my 50's, so I'm not really into the "kilt, t-shirt,and combat boots" look anymore, though I really like it! I think it's a great kilted look. But, because of my age I tend to lean more towards the sedate - or, I guess, "traditional" - end of the spectrum....

[KFCarter]

There's also a generational aspect in play. I'm in my 50's, so I'm not really into the "kilt, t-shirt,and combat boots" look anymore, though I really like it! I think it's a great kilted look. But, because of my age I tend to lean more towards the sedate - or, I guess, "traditional" - end of the spectrum....

That's me, as well.