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19th November 09, 07:05 PM
#1
I think this place has developed entirely too much angst...
...about being "proper"..."correct"...and so on.
Just wear the bloody thing with the pleats in the back, be reasonably civil and polite to folks, ignore the guff from the jerks, and get on with it.
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19th November 09, 07:12 PM
#2
Glen McGuire
A Life Lived in Fear, Is a Life Half Lived.
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19th November 09, 07:20 PM
#3
Indeed, too much emphasis on "correctness" could discourage some people from wearing the kilt for fear they won't get it "right." To quote Terry Varga from Bear Kilts, "Kilts are garments, not costumes!" Unless of course you are in the military or a pipe band that has an actual dress code...
That being said, it is useful to have guidelines of what might work and what tends not to. What is perhaps more interesting is the reasons people give for their statements regarding rules. To simply say that something is "traditional" isn't always accurate when contemporary kilted formal wear has taken a fairly large evolutionary step from where it was in the 19th century.
A simple IMHO (in my humble opinion) goes a long way towards disambiguating a rule from preference. When a rule is given, I have more reason to follow it if there is a context and explanation attached to it.
- Justitia et fortitudo invincibilia sunt
- An t'arm breac dearg
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19th November 09, 07:29 PM
#4
in the BACK? So THAT is why the guff, I reckon.
Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife
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19th November 09, 07:31 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by CMcG
A simple IMHO (in my humble opinion) goes a long way towards disambiguating a rule from preference.
IMHO, when men start stressing out over whether the color of their socks accurately matches one of the three primary colors of the tartan pattern they are wearing...
When men come here asking for advice and walk away seriously worried that they're doing something WRONG and thereby are being BAD PEOPLE by offending hundreds of years of tradition etc. etc. etc.
IMHO...
...we are taking all this stuff way too seriously.
Strap the thing on. The pleats go in back. Put on a shirt, some socks and shoes and go be a man and live your life. Be polite to as many people as you can, ignore those you can't be polite to, speak ill of as few people as you can stomach, love the people you love, stand up for what you believe in and make a positive contribution to society.
IMHO...Nobody is going to give a rip at your funeral, if your pocket hankerchief matched the primary colors of your bluidy tartan, or if the striped thing wrapped around your hips is in the ancient, weathered, muted, or modern colors.
Jeez.
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19th November 09, 07:31 PM
#6
Pleats? I thought I just had to get something plaid and wrap it about my waist...
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19th November 09, 07:42 PM
#7
But, but... I'm an existentialist!
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19th November 09, 07:45 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by GDub
But, but... I'm an existentialist! 
*feh* you can't fool me. That's a guitar, not an existential.
Next you'll try to tell me you're a mathematician, and that's an exponential.
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19th November 09, 07:51 PM
#9
At the risk of hijacking this thread ( just sit quietly and nobody will get hurt) has anyone else ever run into a non-kilted outsider trying to attribute special meaning to things that ARE just a matter of taste or style or fashion? Almost every time I wear a kilt around "civilians" some friend will ask "What is the significance of X?" when it has all of the deep significance of which side I choose to part my hair on.
Examples:
sock color
hat or no hat
jacket color
I am sure there are other examples. It usually happens when several men in kilts are present, such as a Kirkin' or a Tartan Ball, but unfamiliar bystanders are present, too. The reason I raise it here is that so many discussions seem to center on things that DO matter ( to somebody), but some things don't, really. My friends assume I am hiding some conspiracy when I say "No, I just like red socks."
Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife
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19th November 09, 08:10 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by Alan H
IMHO...
...we are taking all this stuff way too seriously.
Strap the thing on. The pleats go in back. Put on a shirt, some socks and shoes and go be a man and live your life. Be polite to as many people as you can, ignore those you can't be polite to, speak ill of as few people as you can stomach, love the people you love, stand up for what you believe in and make a positive contribution to society.
All good advice Alan and excellent use of IMHO Over-seriousness about matters of fashion can certainly be stuffy and there are (thankfully) no kilt police.
Taken with a different attitude, however, the same concerns about matching this with that or different attire for every type of event can be a lot of fun! IMHO there should definitely be room and acceptance for every approach to the kilt from innovative individualism to conservative traditionalism, laissez faire casual to meticulous sartorial. To each their own... as long as it involves a kilt!
- Justitia et fortitudo invincibilia sunt
- An t'arm breac dearg
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