Like I said, they are IMHO just a touch fuller than WB. I could fill the windy day on my calfs which also happens with my WB (Which I can't even wear anymore). this may have something to do with my large limbs. Strange thing is, When I compare my Lewis hose next to these, they are knit the exact same way, but my lewis hose seem a hair thicker, and are definitely wider fitting. I'm wondering if the stretching is giving it a "thin" feel....