"Kilt check" question

[BassClefB]

... when you're unknowingly being photographed under your kilt as part of the kilt check, that takes it to a whole other level. That's what transpired in the second offense I posted about. I was considering 'accidentally' hitting the camera or breaking the SD card at that point.

[Zardoz]

Let me start off with a couple of definitions..."Kilt Check" vs. "Kilt Lift"

In my lexicon, "Kilt Check" is a descreet maneuver, done with permission at many Renaissance faires, Highland games and other kilt-friendly activities. A proper inspection is a formalised "ritual" that generally involves asking first, then running a hand on the outer thigh, under or over the kilt, looking for shorts etc. At Renaissance faires if the checker finds something, they usually annouce it to the crowd. So the asking gives the potential offender an out. I have no problems with proper kilt checks, it happens to me at faires all the time.

"Kilt Lifts" on the other hand, are generally done by people sneaking up on you, mostly in the pub. These are quite impolite in my book! Honestly this rarely ever happens to me. If a woman does it, I'll usually just slap her hand away, and give her a verbal warning, reminding her that she'd be offended if I pulled that on her etc.. usually in jest. If it's a guy showing off for his friends, I'll usually do the same thing, only while questioning the reasons for his interest in my junk! Although that doesn't always work, I have taken a fellow by the ear and led him over to a bouncer before.

That being said, I do not think of kilt lifts as "assault" ! Assault is when somebody comes at you with a broken bottle! If a woman lifted my kilt and I called the police, "She touched me in my bad place officer!".....Well, I'd never be able to go in that pub again!

I think attitude has a lot to do with it. If you in your pre-kilt days you could go in a pub, fade into the woodwork, and drink your pint without dealing with anyone, recognize that you cannot do that in a kilt! The kilt won't let ya'! You will be noticed, and how you deal with the attention is the key.
If you have that "sorry I'm in a kilt, leave me alone" introvert attitude, you will be on the defensive.
Better to project a "Yeah I'm in a kilt! your prayers are answered!" vibe, it puts you more in control of your interactions.

[HarborSpringsPiper]

That being said, I do not think of kilt lifts as "assault" ! Assault is when somebody comes at you with a broken bottle! If a woman lifted my kilt and I called the police, "She touched me in my bad place officer!".....Well, I'd never be able to go in that pub again!

Your correct that it is not an assault, it's battery.

Assault and Battery: Two separate offenses against the person that when used in one expression may be defined as any unlawful and unpermitted touching of another. Assault is an act that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent, harmful, or offensive contact. The act consists of a threat of harm accompanied by an apparent, present ability to carry out the threat. Battery is a harmful or offensive touching of another.

The main distinction between the two offenses is the existence or nonexistence of a touching or contact. While contact is an essential element of battery, there must be an absence of contact for assault. Sometimes assault is defined loosely to include battery.

Assault and battery are offenses in both criminal and Tort Law; therefore, they can give rise to criminal or civil liability. In Criminal Law, an assault may additionally be defined as any attempt to commit a battery.

At Common Law, both offenses were misdemeanors. As of the early 2000s, under virtually all criminal codes, they are either misdemeanors or felonies. They are characterized as felonious when accompanied by a criminal intent, such as an intent to kill, rob, or rape, or when they are committed with a dangerous weapon.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...lt+and+Battery

I doubt I would ever involve the law and would guess most cops in my neck of the woods would laugh at me if I ever tried. I doubt they would laugh very long if someone pressed the matter with their superiors though. Nonethless, it is battery.

Mostly I consider it impolite and unwarranted. No shortage of those kinds of people in the world.