"Jacobite" garb

**Erikm** · 21st March 10, 12:11 PM

Ty everyone

I got the coat and baghose,from Barkerstown Sutlers she did a great job.

The Small kilt I got was just cheap, it says it has no meaning.
it's light brown with blue and red, but there is just something about the colors I just dont like..

Later on when the money is right, I will go for a belted plaid, could you recommend a color for the tartan? I like the one your wearing in the very first pic woodsheal and a place to get one?

Thanks sorry for all the questions

**Woodsheal** · 21st March 10, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Erikm

Ty everyone

I got the coat and baghose,from Barkerstown Sutlers she did a great job..

Missy is one of the the best...!

http://www.barkertownsutlers.com/

I've always picked up generic tartan plaids at the local fabric store. You have to get lucky, but often you can find 100% wool fabric - or at least a high wool content....

**Sir William** · 21st March 10, 02:12 PM

I'll second Woodsheal about Missy.

She sometimes gets a bit behind but I've never been disappointed with the results.

Unlike Woodsheal, I've not had much luck finding generic tartans at our local fabric stores. However, I've found some at the local RenFaire, some at a local colonial market fair, and some from (of all places) a Civil War sutler. If I can find at least 4 yards it probably becomes a great kilt, but if not I'll turn it into a waistcoat or jacket.

**creagdhubh** · 21st March 10, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Woodsheal

Thanks to the mods for initiating this forum! I'll start the ball rolling....

We occasionally hear mention of "Jacobite" items of clothing, be it "Jacobite Jackets" or "Jacobite Shirts." The problem here is that the period of the Jacobite Risings in Scotland encompassed the period from 1689 to 1746, and fashions changed and evolved quite a bit during that stretch of years (even in the "backwards" Highlands!).

Here's a look from the beginning of the period, with belted plaid, hodden grey doublet, and woad-dyed blue bonnet:

And here's one fromthe tail-end of the period, the `45 Rising, with philabeg, tartan coat, and indigo-dyed bonnet (indigo imports got cheaper in the intervening years) with the white cockade (not worn in earlier risings):

Quite a different look between the two extremes of the Jacobite era...!

You look great!!!

**Woodsheal** · 21st March 10, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by creagdhubh

You look great!!!

Thank you, sir! Wish I still had that Dutch musket...!

**celtophile** · 21st March 10, 03:22 PM

Thanks for the great history lesson.

**Erikm** · 31st March 10, 12:50 AM

Hi Woodsheal I see you have something wrapped around your neck, is it a jabot or just a neckerchief of some sort? I heard they did this for sword protection?

Thanks

**Woodsheal** · 1st April 10, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Erikm

Hi Woodsheal I see you have something wrapped around your neck, is it a jabot or just a neckerchief of some sort? I heard they did this for sword protection?

Thanks

It's a cravat: white or black, silk or cotton, about six inches wide and three feet long, finished on all edges and can have a bit of pleating on the ends. Such neck-cloths originally protected one from the chafing of armor, and did indeed help turn a sword stroke. Our modern neck ties are distant descendants....

**Erikm** · 4th April 10, 12:54 AM

Thanks very much

**charliec3006** · 29th April 10, 06:22 PM

Hey, Woodsheal, love the outfit, I need to know were I could get shoes like what your wearing, I've been using C/W brogans for some time but would like to get something more 1680-1745. I had a pair of buckle shoe but they killed my feet. You know of a place and something that's not going to brake the bank?