Quote Originally Posted by Riverkilt View Post
Okay, then try this direct answer.

I do not believe that a tartan has to be first created, then dipped in blood to be "proud and honorable."

I do believe that a tartan can be created to honor a proud and honorable history - Being created to honor a proud an honorable history is what makes the tartan proud and honorable.

The way you asked your question makes It very difficult not to infer degradation and malice toward honorable men and women who saved the bacon of folks who twice fought their ancestors - yet they still responded to the call to defend the homeland of their former enemies. I would call that proud an honorable and deserving of a proud an honorable tartan after the fact.

It is the very audacity to question a proud and honorable history that has my hackles up since so many of my family members answered the call without hesitation. You asked for help, we came, now you question the honor of the tartan that represents our service?

Each tartan represents what it represents - there's no need to compare one to the other - each speaks for its own history - or the history it was created to represent.

You tossed out the challenge...I've answered as best I could and with honest emotion. I care not how you judge my response. I am left to wonder why the challenge in the first place and why the ingratitude towards men and women who gave the ultimate sacrifice to defend your homeland - assuming you are English from past mention of your service to the Crown.
Canadian not English, so we never called for your help, but have answered yours.. Afghanistan. My question was from the start about you discription of a tartan plain and simple. I never said anything which could have been misconstrued any other way.

And peacekeeper83, thank you for your discription. You are right I don't get it, and it has nothing to do with not being a Marine. Our military has symbols, but they come from within, not from outsiders.

Frank