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29th April 10, 12:02 PM
#101
At the end of the day (I hate that phrase !!!), most Scots are kilt-virgins. They are not use to wearing one. I'm guessing, but I would suggest that 10% or less Scots own a kilt. The idea of a kilt resurgence is a recent phenomenon (since Braveheart engendered a sense of pride amongst even the most dull of Scots) and now you can't be a proper Scot (so it seems) if you don't don a kilt.
So artificial. I love how Gaelic is being brought to the fore nowadays but on the flip-side, it seems to be for political rather than genuine reasons. The whole Scottish "thing" seems a PR hype rather than genuine passion for varied Scottish cultures.
IMHO, Scots who are genuinely interested have always been so and many of those who don kilts in Scotland nowadays are Johnny-Come-Latelys who are jumping on the bandwagon.
The poster who saw 2 kilties in Edinburgh saw the reality. In my day (back in the 1980's) we used to smile and lament that the only people you would see wearing a kilt in Princes St would be tourists.
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29th April 10, 12:56 PM
#102
One thing that struck me about Edinburghkiltie's (excellent quality) photos is how it demonstrates the versatility of the kilt. Of course there will be different opinions about what works and what does not but what shines out to me at least is that the "models" are comfortable with their own choices of accessory clothes. It certainly beats the horrendous looks of "saggy" jeans that not only look like they could fall down at any moment but also denies any kind of human form underneath.
I suspect that Lachlan's estimate is somewhat pessimistic but there is still a big difference between ownership and use and perhaps many Scots still cannot think outside of the special occasion (and therefore formal) box. Of course one can cite occasions when kilts appear in a flood but outside of those, yes indeed a kilted sighting on Princes St or the Royal Mile, especially upon a weekday, is likely to be a tourist, even when they are worn the correct way around.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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29th April 10, 01:30 PM
#103
If the kilt is restricted to formal wear or to a fashion set-piece some sort or another, as it has been until I guess Braveheart came out, it will become and remain a sort of artificial national costume, like that worn by pseudo Albanian shepherds at their national day celebrations here in the Americas- and of course the garb of pipe bands. I like the fact that the young folks in the photos and everywhere are wearing them around town with rugby garb and such, that is the only forward direction I see for the garment. And no 20-something year old should ever be forced to dress like a senior citizen- that leaves us of advancing and senior years a way to show our maturity and good judgement.
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29th April 10, 03:51 PM
#104
Originally Posted by McClef
yes indeed a kilted sighting on Princes St or the Royal Mile, especially upon a weekday, is likely to be a tourist, even when they are worn the correct way around.
I’ll remember that tomorrow as im wandering around Edinburgh then.
Aye so the flappy bits go where again... and what about that purse thingy
The hielan' man he wears the kilt, even when it's snowin';
He kens na where the wind comes frae,
But he kens fine where its goin'.
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30th April 10, 12:17 AM
#105
Originally Posted by Canuck of NI
If the kilt is restricted to formal wear or to a fashion set-piece some sort or another, as it has been until I guess Braveheart came out, it will become and remain a sort of artificial national costume, like that worn by pseudo Albanian shepherds at their national day celebrations here in the Americas- and of course the garb of pipe bands. I like the fact that the young folks in the photos and everywhere are wearing them around town with rugby garb and such, that is the only forward direction I see for the garment. And no 20-something year old should ever be forced to dress like a senior citizen- that leaves us of advancing and senior years a way to show our maturity and good judgement.
No 20 year old worth his salt should conform to anything much, that is true. Many, too many, years ago I well remember causing consternation amongst the senior members of my family by moving my kilt pin from the "mid thigh position" on the kilt, to the lower corner.I still wear it there today, some 50 years later.
What, if any, is the significance of the Rainbow tartan? I seem to have missed something here.
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30th April 10, 12:36 AM
#106
Originally Posted by Jock Scot
No 20 year old worth his salt should conform to anything much, that is true. Many, too many, years ago I well remember causing consternation amongst the senior members of my family by moving my kilt pin from the "mid thigh position" on the kilt, to the lower corner.I still wear it there today, some 50 years later.
What, if any, is the significance of the Rainbow tartan? I seem to have missed something here.
Oh, don't worry too much about that tartan, Jock.
It only took me a couple of years, and a few MacMillan of Rathdown posts, to start wearing a blanket pin, then move it from the corner of my apron to the "mid thigh ... Kind of scary, now that I think of it.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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30th April 10, 01:59 AM
#107
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30th April 10, 02:04 AM
#108
Originally Posted by Brian K
Wow! Who would have guessed that the guy who styles himself an "auld crabbit" is actually a rebel at heart?!?
I have had my moments and given a bit more time on this planet, I hope to have a few more yet!
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30th April 10, 02:42 AM
#109
Originally Posted by Jordan
I’ll remember that tomorrow as im wandering around Edinburgh then.
Aye so the flappy bits go where again... and what about that purse thingy
I know that you will be wearing things correctly Jordan!
I was referring rather to the way certain shops will let their clients out in their cheap purchases wearing them the wrong way around.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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30th April 10, 05:21 AM
#110
Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I have had my moments and given a bit more time on this planet, I hope to have a few more yet!
I hope you do, too, Jock!
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