untraditional traditions

[MacBean]

In terms of casual clothing, though, I do wear polo shirts, shorts, and leather camp-mocs around during the summer and would simply replace the shorts with kilt and kilt hose for casual kilted wear. Perhaps something like that is a better analogy.
David

Works for me.

[macwilkin]

I don't believe there is a THCD equivalent to shorts, t-shirt, and sneakers, though, I guess everyone has a different definition of "appropriate casual attire". FWIW, I wear shorts, t-shirts, and athletic shoes only when I'm PT'ing. Otherwise, I consider t-shirts an undergarment, so I don't wear them outside the house. Likewise, I only wear athletic shoes when actually doing athletics. At their high prices, I can't see putting daily wear and tear on what is, to me, a specialized piece of gear for running.

In terms of casual clothing, though, I do wear polo shirts, shorts, and leather camp-mocs around during the summer and would simply replace the shorts with kilt and kilt hose for casual kilted wear. Perhaps something like that is a better analogy.

David

David,

After reading your post, I am reminded of one of my favourite forms of national dress -- Bermuda shorts:

http://www.bermuda-online.org/shorts.htm

It should be noted the connection between Bermudian attire and that of the Highland regiments, as discussed in the article.

T.

[Jock Scot]

I don't believe there is a THCD equivalent to shorts, t-shirt, and sneakers, though, I guess everyone has a different definition of "appropriate casual attire". FWIW, I wear shorts, t-shirts, and athletic shoes only when I'm PT'ing. Otherwise, I consider t-shirts an undergarment, so I don't wear them outside the house. Likewise, I only wear athletic shoes when actually doing athletics. At their high prices, I can't see putting daily wear and tear on what is, to me, a specialized piece of gear for running.

In terms of casual clothing, though, I do wear polo shirts, shorts, and leather camp-mocs around during the summer and would simply replace the shorts with kilt and kilt hose for casual kilted wear. Perhaps something like that is a better analogy.

David

I think you all need to remember that we don't suffer, in Scotland, the same sort of humidity and heat that many of you experience. If it gets warm in Scotland, I am not sure it could ever be described as hot, by some of your definitions! The THCD would be long shirt sleeves with sleeves rolled up, tie off and top button of the shirt undone. Hose would be up to traditional height and black brogues would still be worn as would kilt belt and sporran. In many ways you chaps in your type of weather have already started to make your own traditions.

[davidlpope]

I think you all need to remember that we don't suffer, in Scotland, the same sort of humidity and heat that many of you experience. If it gets warm in Scotland, I am not sure it could ever be described as hot, by some of your definitions! The THCD would be long shirt sleeves with sleeves rolled up, tie off and top button of the shirt undone. Hose would be up to traditional height and black brogues would still be worn as would kilt belt and sporran. In many ways you chaps in your type of weather have already started to make your own traditions.

Here's a pic from a recent event showing a couple different takes on warm-weather kilting. Even May in North Carolina gets quite warm!

David

[macwilkin]

I think you all need to remember that we don't suffer, in Scotland, the same sort of humidity and heat that many of you experience. If it gets warm in Scotland, I am not sure it could ever be described as hot, by some of your definitions! The THCD would be long shirt sleeves with sleeves rolled up, tie off and top button of the shirt undone. Hose would be up to traditional height and black brogues would still be worn as would kilt belt and sporran. In many ways you chaps in your type of weather have already started to make your own traditions.

And I would add to Jock's post that it's not just the residents of the USA that are doing so, but also those in other warmer climes, such as the Australians, etc. In Australia, for example, many pipe bands in the summer have done away with the traditional headgear and replaced with straw, wide-brimmed hats for protection against the sun, just as Highlanders adopted the colonial slouch hat in South Africa during the Boer War, or "Red Sea Rig" as worn by RM, RN and Army Officers for mess dress "East of Suez".

T.

[CMcG]

Box pleats as in the Seaforth Highlanders Kilts.

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Good point on an ongoing tradition of box pleated kilts. I was thinking more in terms of civilian dress and it is oft repeated around here that uniforms are a different beast than what regular people wear. THCD calls for knife pleats and my understanding is that box pleats on civilian kilts have only recently been revived.

[dfmacliam]

Of course in Scotland, the box pleats refered to, are the military box pleats, not to be confused with the 4 yd box pleats, that have been revived. Military box pleats require more material to construct than the average 8 yd knife pleat. There has been several threads that have the diagrams of the various pleating options. If I am not mistaken, Lady Chrystel's website has the diagram posted.

[Jock Scot]

Good point on an ongoing tradition of box pleated kilts. I was thinking more in terms of civilian dress and it is oft repeated around here that uniforms are a different beast than what regular people wear. THCD calls for knife pleats and my understanding is that box pleats on civilian kilts have only recently been revived.

The Seaforth Highlanders ceased to exist as an individual Regiment in, I think, 1961. Civilian box pleats in Scotland are rarer then hen's teeth and in 70 years I have not seen one for real. It was not until I joined this website, that I knew that they even existed.They may have been revived in other parts of the world, but I have yet to be convinced that there is any sort of revival here.

[Panache]

I think you all need to remember that we don't suffer, in Scotland, the same sort of humidity and heat that many of you experience. If it gets warm in Scotland, I am not sure it could ever be described as hot, by some of your definitions! The THCD would be long shirt sleeves with sleeves rolled up, tie off and top button of the shirt undone. Hose would be up to traditional height and black brogues would still be worn as would kilt belt and sporran. In many ways you chaps in your type of weather have already started to make your own traditions.

It should be noted that Jock Scot in his youth did travel to a warmer clime (Australia as I believe) so he has indeed experienced the meterological phenomenon known as "The Sun" and "Heat' first hand. As I recall he didn't care to much for either and promptly retreated to the highlands!



Cheers

Jamie :ootd:

[Zardoz]

Sure there is "THCD" equivalent, but those who are fans of modern kilt attire don't like it. We wear shirts, and hose, a tartan kilt, sporran, maybe a sweater if it's cool. We wear leather shoes on our feet, maybe rubber wellies if it's wet. Polo shirts work when it's warm.

It certainly is equivalent to "American standard casual dress."

This describes my casual wear pretty well.