My Brothers Wedding

**ohiopiper** · 26th August 10, 09:21 AM

Sporran link:
http://www.britishshop.com/item.php?item_id=2185

Or go to the site, click the "What's Hot" link and to go page five or six. I'll post pics of mine when I figure out how to do it.

**MacRobert's Reply** · 26th August 10, 02:48 PM

Jock Scot's advice is what I would go with. If matching ties are requested, try to go for a normal four-in hand tie (with a nice windsor knot) in the same colour as the ruches. Alternatively, wear the ruche as a cravat. If it's pre-tied you're options are more limited!

**Jimmy** · 27th August 10, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by tetley88mark

the tartan i'll be wearing is stewart hunting, i like the idea of the grey hose, i've got 6 months to save up, first priority is the jacket, i'll get a dress sporran if the cash allows nearer the time i think

I was at my niece's wedding last month and I wore my newly bought Hunting Stewart kilt.
I wore a green ruche cravat, black shirt and black hose with Prince Charlie Jacket and 5 button waistcoat, some in the forum say it went against convention but I received lots of compliments on how smart it looked.
So wear what you think you look good in.

**Jock Scot** · 27th August 10, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Jimmy

I was at my niece's wedding last month and I wore my newly bought Hunting Stewart kilt.
I wore a green ruche cravat, black shirt and black hose with Prince Charlie Jacket and 5 button waistcoat, some in the forum say it went against convention but I received lots of compliments on how smart it looked.
So wear what you think you look good in.

Quite right Jimmy if we want to go against convention then it is purely down to our choice. However, in the case in question here, there is an added twist and that is that formal day wear(morning dress) is being worn and that does guide us towards being rather more conventional.This wedding is suggesting----- no wrong word, demanding that this is not a come as you are event and the guests and ushers should really pay rather more attention to their attire than perhaps they normally would.

**wildrover** · 27th August 10, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by tetley88mark

They'd like me to be an usher so I need to co-ordinate with the other groomsmen, they're all wearing black morning suits with white winged collar shirts and dark red ruche ties, shirt and tie is easy but i'm not sure about the jacket and hose, also would i need a dress sporran and sgian dubh or will my plain black leather day sporran do?

If I may add a suggestion to the already excellent advice so far, since this is a year away, and a wedding, that perhaps you might set aside a bit more for a nice sporran. Black barathea Argyle jackets aren't hard to find, nor are they necessarily expensive, same with 5-button vests, so potentially you'll save a bit there...so why not forgo the typical rabbit hide with chrome dipped plastic cantle, and get something a bit nicer...horsehair, perhaps? Although I agree that your current sporran would be just fine.

...Also a good excuse to get a nice sgian dubh, since people will undoubtedly want to see it if you have it, though they may not even notice if you don't have one. I don't yet, and have never had anyone say anything one way or another.

They're making an exception for you, expecting that you wear your kilt...so you've a bit of leeway toward your kit, just don't outdress the rest of the wedding party or people may mistake you for the groom

. Kilts aren't penguin suits, so no reason to try and make them fit the mold, at least within reason and good taste.

-Sean

**MacLowlife** · 27th August 10, 08:32 AM

I have been to all sorts and conditions of weddings, but my experience is the kind that gets planned months in advance tends to be a fairly well-thought out (i.e., rigidly organized) affair. I have read advice above that suggests that a kilted groomsman is not expected to look like the other groomsmen at all. I have not noticed that advice coming from anyone who might be called "the bride", who I believe is the person making the real decisions.

If she is deciding in advance how the other groomsmen will look, she is probably not interested in hearing about how much the groom's brother likes this color for ties or this color for shirts. She has chosen and she hopes he will wear it, or else he can sit in the back and sing with everybody else.

Here is a simple clue. Many weddings now include a program of some kind. Home computer typesetting and printing make this easy to do, usually with a ribbon attached, but of course, there are printers who manage this along with the invitations...

Anyway, imagine the program, if you will.
Does it say
Groomsmen/Ushers
Mr Rowan Atkinson
Mr. Hugh Laurie
Mr.Stephen Frye
Mr. Tetley 88 Mark

Or does it say

Groomsmen/Ushers
Mr Rowan Atkinson
Mr Hugh Laurie
Mr Stephen Frye
Groom's kilted Brother
Mr Tetley 88 Mark

If you are counting on the latter, then, by all means, substitute whatever color of shirt you please, whatever style of tie you like, whatever else, because, as the kilted guy, you are special and entitled to do what suits you. But if you expect the former, then you had best start thinking about how the bride wants you to look.

Or maybe it is just me and the rest of you gents have dealt only with brides who do not have a preference for anything.

**auld argonian** · 27th August 10, 08:36 AM

You know, there would certainly be a market for a GREY Argyle and vest that wasn't tweed but rather the same weave as the Barathea...that would certainly be acceptable as day wear, eh?

Best

AA

**MacLowlife** · 27th August 10, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by auld argonian

You know, there would certainly be a market for a GREY Argyle and vest that wasn't tweed but rather the same weave as the Barathea...that would certainly be acceptable as day wear, eh?

Best

AA

I have seen grey morning coats and suits. One could buy (or rent) a pale grey vest and wear it with darker argyll. Apparently, in places where a morning coat may be worn fairly often, they are available in a wide range of colours, though probably not with the approval of traditionalists. I expect they are considered a little like the colored dinner jacket in the US. And then there is THIS:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ralph-Lauren-men...item2eab0bda0a

That is a morning coat, or an approximation of one.