Welcome to the "X" from "upstate" NY.

Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
Either way, I wouldn't wear them with white socks.
What's wrong with white socks???

Another in agreement - invest in a nice pair of "lace ups" (dress shoes). If you want the "look", then also get the long laces. I bought a nice pair of "lace ups" and have not had anyone "complain", yet.