"Jacobite" garb

**Sir William** · 12th September 10, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by figheadair

I've read modern accounts of the Royal Ecossais that state that the Grenadier Coy wore kilts. Does anyone know of an authorative source for the claim and also whether they wore the fileadh mor or feildeadh beag? If true, I'd have thought the former.

All I've seen is second-hand sources, mostly speculation based on reports that Royal Ecossais officers wore kilts - whether fileadh mor or feildeadh beag was not specified. Two portraits, both post 1745, show officers with plaids, one apparently of the Drummond tartan. (I have a file on the Royal Ecossais but can't put my hands on it right now)

Several captured officers were noted as wearing short blue coats with silver lace, causing further speculation that the Royal Ecossais as a whole wore kilts.

If there is a first hand report of the Grenadier Coy, or any other Coy, wearing fileadh mor or feildeadh beag I'd love to see it.

**macwilkin** · 13th September 10, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by figheadair

I've read modern accounts of the Royal Ecossais that state that the Grenadier Coy wore kilts. Does anyone know of an authorative source for the claim and also whether they wore the fileadh mor or feildeadh beag? If true, I'd have thought the former.

Originally Posted by Sir William

All I've seen is second-hand sources, mostly speculation based on reports that Royal Ecossais officers wore kilts - whether fileadh mor or feildeadh beag was not specified. Two portraits, both post 1745, show officers with plaids, one apparently of the Drummond tartan. (I have a file on the Royal Ecossais but can't put my hands on it right now)

Several captured officers were noted as wearing short blue coats with silver lace, causing further speculation that the Royal Ecossais as a whole wore kilts.

If there is a first hand report of the Grenadier Coy, or any other Coy, wearing fileadh mor or feildeadh beag I'd love to see it.

I can't remember what Stuart Reid has to say about the Royal Ecossais in his book on the Jacobite Army...I'll have a look this evening and see.

T.

**Erikm** · 17th September 10, 03:25 PM

Hi all I got a question maybe Woodsheal would know how were the Murdoch" pistols worn? I was thinking about getting one this year.

Also any good places to find one?

Thanks for any help..

**Woodsheal** · 17th September 10, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Erikm

Hi all I got a question maybe Woodsheal would know how were the Murdoch" pistols worn? I was thinking about getting one this year.

Also any good places to find one?

Thanks for any help..

Highlanders wore their pistols hanging off a narrow leather belt worn over the shoulder. Picture here, plus the best price on repros:

http://www.militaryheritage.com/pistol2.htm

**Woodsheal** · 17th September 10, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Erikm

Hi all I got a question maybe Woodsheal would know how were the Murdoch" pistols worn? I was thinking about getting one this year.

Also any good places to find one?

Thanks for any help..

You can see the thin pistol strap in this image, too (the well-known "A Pinch of Snuff"):

**Erikm** · 17th September 10, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Woodsheal

You can see the thin pistol strap in this image, too (the well-known "A Pinch of Snuff"):

Thank you very much sir

**Nighthawk** · 26th September 10, 08:11 PM

Alright, guys, I know this has been asked- repeatedly- on this forum, and most likely in this thread, BUT- I can't find the answer, so I'm going to ask- again. So forgive the repetition of the question... but I need a pattern for an accurate shirt for about the 1650's through 1745, so late Renaissance to Jacobean. Thanks!!

Originally Posted by Brasilikilt

A lot of the attitude has been that you are basically *required* to wear the kilt, carry a basket hilt/targe and all the expected Highlander kit.
I acquired/ made these things because I like the look and feel of the whole kit, but, I have grown tired of everybody's practice in only wanting to dress up as one of the Clan Honchos.
As I stand now, I basically want to blacksmith at events. Wearing a belted plaide while blacksmithing in summer does NOT sound like something I want to do :-)

I can blacksmith as a Manchester/Lancashire recruit in camp, which will draw a decent crowd on it's own, and allow me an opportunity to explain to people that not all Jacobites were Highlanders.

Interesting that you posted this. Here's a picture of the blacksmith from my living history group:

And yes, they do draw quite a crowd. The kid in the smithy is my son. He's our black smith's apprentice. He alone draws quite a crowd. People are often surprise that we function on the level where we actually have apprentices.