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31st October 10, 07:28 AM
#1
Kilt belt & sporran strap in one combination
Look at this photo. The guy has very good combination of kilt belt and sporran strap. What bothers me is, how belt strap and kilt loops are interlaced. This way whole point is missed. If the belt went over loops, it would be nice way to avoid loops and kilt overload with strap.
What do you think?
The photo was taken on Alpen Highland Games in Austria (near Klagenfurt). You can find my post on this event.
Mipi
I like the breeze between my knees
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31st October 10, 08:16 AM
#2
I like it, the black sporran belt on top of the brown kilt belt looks great. I may just make one!
But I do agree that it would look better if the whole thing went through the kilt loops.
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31st October 10, 08:36 AM
#3
I don't like it. With the belt and strap joined together the sporran will not hang properly, and look "off".
Frank
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31st October 10, 09:42 AM
#4
I can't find front view photo. But, if I remember correctly, it looked like sporran is hanging on belt hangers. My opinion is that passing through kilt loops is not proper solution, specially for this combination. It adds stress on kilt and makes everything unpractical to put on and off. IMHO
I like the breeze between my knees
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31st October 10, 11:08 AM
#5
The look is very much like a Ranger belt. A good look in a kilt belt. However, considering the limitations this design puts on the wearer, it's not something that's practical or functional.
The idea of an integral sporran suspension system in a kilt belt is one that has merit, but there are just too many factors at play for proper/comfortable sporran placement and functionality to make it more practical than a stand-alone sporran strap, sporran hangers or an extra set of keepers.
As soon as you anchor the suspension to the belt, you then have to either twist the entire belt rig to the side when using the restroom, dancing, sitting,... or you have to remove the sporran which means now you have to keep up with the sporran until you can reattach it and you will have two loose ends left hanging (unless you hook them together with an adapter). Might as well just have a stand-alone strap which you could twist to the side for the moment and then twist back.
You now also have the kilt belt determining where the sporran will hang based on what the belt is sized, other wise the suspension system now has to have an adjustment feature, and you are back to a stand-alone strap.
If you were to want to wear the belt without the sporran, you would have slits cut in your belt which may or may not be desired.
It seems this Gent could have achieved the same function (keeping the strap from sliding down his rear I expect) by adding a couple more keepers to the belt. Unless the desired result was more aesthetic than practical, in which case, function tends to be a non-issue .
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31st October 10, 12:30 PM
#6
Creative!
It does seem the solution is a bit more cumbersome than the problem, we assume, it was trying to address. However, if you have no rear end then I could see wanting something to keep the sporran strap from sliding down. For that, I think it is at least a creative solution.
If the loops on the belt were loose fitting enough, I imagine the sporran strap could still slide within them allowing for the shifting of the sporran when necessary. If they were kept far enough from the front of the belt the hang of the sporran would not necessarily be negatively effected (perhaps having only one in the back of the belt ?)
On the topic of belt loops on kilts, I have both, kilts with belt loops and others without, and can make a pros and cons argument for either side. However, I disagree with the argument that belt loops inherently cause the kilt to deform in anyway as the kilt is held up by the kilt straps, not the belt.
Putting this rig on a kilt with loops though seems like it would be a bit more of a challenge. Its seem much more conducive to a kilt without belt loops.
I still give the maker extra credit for creativity!
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31st October 10, 12:37 PM
#7
sporran
What I find really interesting is the sporran of the gentleman standing behind him in the foreground. Do you happen to have a better photo of that?
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31st October 10, 06:20 PM
#8
Originally Posted by MacMillan's son
What I find really interesting is the sporran of the gentleman standing behind him in the foreground. Do you happen to have a better photo of that?
Wow, good catch. I'd like to see a better picture of that sporran too! It looks very unique, and I dare say I like it.
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1st November 10, 09:02 AM
#9
I could forgive everything I don't like about this picture if he just lost the flashes and pushed the hose down. ;)
I agree, the sporran and belt buckle on the fellow wearing the leatherneck tartan on the far right is more interesting than the rest of the picture. At least for me.
"To the make of a piper go seven years of his own learning, and seven generations before. At the end of his seven years one born to it will stand at the start of knowledge, and leaning a fond ear to the drone he may have parley with old folks of old affairs." - Neil Munro
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1st November 10, 09:05 AM
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I could forgive everything I don't like about this picture if he just lost the flashes and pushed the hose down.
LOL, I dunno... it's pretty hard to overlook the chap on the left who is wearing his flashes around his ankles. They're almost on the ground!
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