Coat with Trews?

[acolander]

Well, here's my tuppence for what it's worth.. I have approx 16 pair trews, half of which are the high-rise "fish tail" version worn for mess dress w/ braces, and the others being the standard issue "other ranks" variety that can be worn w/ braces or 2"+ belt.

Below is a pic of the OR issue RStewart w/ regular cut suit jacket;

[JSFMACLJR]

I have worn trews with a dinner jacket and a smoking jacket in the evening, but never with a jacket tailored for the kilt. I frequently see trews being worn with dinner jackets.

At the Oban Ball a few years ago there was a gentleman wearing Cameron tartan trews and a red ( "pink" ) hunt tail coat. He looked quite sharp, I thought. Jock, he hunted with a pack in Yorkshire.

[Cygnus]

Thanks again, everyone, especially for the pictures! The fellows in both acolander's and Zardoz's posts look quite sharp.

And thank you, Sandy, for the information - it is good to know that it is done, even if it isn't done frequently.

The reality that Christmas and its accompanying purchases will be here soon has dashed any hopes of me getting a quality kilt by Burns Night, let alone a formal Highland jacket. For not much more than the price or hiring the full kit, I found I could purchase a decent pair of tartan trews (which I would then own and be able to reuse in the future, unlike any rented clothing). I am still seriously considering the trews with a dinner jacket rather than hiring a kilt ensemble.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

When wearing trews during the day I (used to) have a standard length, full-cut Argyll jacket. For evening wear I (again, used to) wear a standard lenght, black, full-cut Argyll jacket in superfine barathea with silk cuffs and lapels. Having "aged out" of both jackets (an extra 20lbs) they have been passed on to a friend in Edinburgh who looks a million dollars in 'em.

I tend to agree that "kilt length" jackets don't look quite right with trews and for evening wear I prefer a dinner jacket and waistcoat with trews, rather than a regulation doublet. To my eye neither a coatee nor a closed front doublet (Montrose, etc.) really carries off the look.

[A Hay]

About a year and a quarter ago, Matt Newsome, from the Scottish Tartans Museum, offered a pair of Trews that were ordered but the deal fell through.
They were about my size and I wanted to see if they fit and if I liked them

Attached are photos of the front and back. I'm wearing my Prince Charlie Jacket and a formal shirt with wing collar. This was the only time I've worn them, because if I'm going to dress up, I will wear a kilt.

These are normal cut trousers, not high waist or "fishback"





My memory may be faulty, but I believe Matt said the tartan was MacDonald of Clanranld. If that is incorrect, someone please let us know.

As far as the length of the PC relative to the waist, I personally don't think it looks too bad. If I were to wear trews for day wear, I would go with my loden green Argyll with horn buttons.

I may get a pair of "fishback" sometime in the future.

Tom

[OC Richard]

Interesting in the 18th century that a sporran could be worn:



A couple of the 19th century Highland regiments worn "trews", for example the 91st Highlanders, in which only the pipers were kilted:






Here are some modern civilian Drum Majors:




Then there's the 1960s...

[Mike_Oettle]

OC Richard wrote: “Interesting in the 18th century that a sporran could be worn:”

But the chap wearing the sporran is not wearing trousers of any sort – those are the real deal, the traditional trews that were more like all-the-way-up hose (worn in other countries, and in a different era, with a codpiece).
A sporran would be necessary because trews of that kind have no pockets (as well as for modesty’s sake).
All the same, I would not object to a sporran being worn with modern military-style trews.
With English-style trousers (tartan or otherwise) there seems little point.
Regards,
Mike

[JSFMACLJR]

OC Richard wrote: “Interesting in the 18th century that a sporran could be worn:”

But the chap wearing the sporran is not wearing trousers of any sort – those are the real deal, the traditional trews that were more like all-the-way-up hose (worn in other countries, and in a different era, with a codpiece).
A sporran would be necessary because trews of that kind have no pockets (as well as for modesty’s sake).
All the same, I would not object to a sporran being worn with modern military-style trews.
With English-style trousers (tartan or otherwise) there seems little point.
Regards,
Mike

Charles McKerrell of Hillhouse wears a sporran with trews.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

My memory may be faulty, but I believe Matt said the tartan was MacDonald of Clanranld. If that is incorrect, someone please let us know.

I remember those trews (trousers)! The tartan is MacDonald of Glengarry, so close. :-) They look great on you. I'm glad I was able to find someone with the same measurements to take advantage of the deal.

M

[Mike_Oettle]

JSFMACLJR wrote: “Charles McKerrell of Hillhouse wears a sporran with trews.”

Thought I had seen that style somewhere. Is there a picture on X Marks?
Regards,
Mike