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15th February 11, 03:50 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by Bigkahuna
Wasn't there a Colonel of the Coldstream Guards attached to General Pickett's Staff as an observer???
To Longstreet's staff, actually. And some Prussian officer was on hand as well.
Not that any of that relates to the fact of "non-kiltedness" during the War...!
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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15th February 11, 06:34 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by Woodsheal
To Longstreet's staff, actually. And some Prussian officer was on hand as well.
Not that any of that relates to the fact of "non-kiltedness" during the War...!
And contrary to the movie, Col. Fremantle never wore his uniform on his travels. 
T.
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16th February 11, 07:23 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by Woodsheal
To Longstreet's staff, actually. And some Prussian officer was on hand as well.
Not that any of that relates to the fact of "non-kiltedness" during the War...!
My question was in response to Forester Modern in his 2/14/11 post Re:numerous British observers. I suppose it relate as well as comments about the war of 1812 or Fenian raids, or how the Confererates were trying to gain support from Great Britain. However, if you feel that my post was so off the topic, I will be happy to delete it.
Last edited by Bigkahuna; 2nd March 11 at 07:30 PM.
By Choice, not by Birth
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23rd February 11, 12:19 PM
#4
Oh YE OF LITTLE FAITH
For all who scoffed, I offer this proof positive of kilted confederates. Here is the jacket!!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/SCOTTISH-HIGHLAN...item4cf5463cd8 Surely this is proof.
Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife
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23rd February 11, 01:42 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by MacLowlife
At least they got the "Brigadoon" part right....
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15th February 11, 09:10 AM
#6
Stick your tongue firmly in cheek, don your full British Highland regiment uniform, and go as a member of the British Expeditionary Force dispatched to reinforce the Confederate Army.
After all, the Confederates were trying to make it happen...and you would at least have an interesting story to tell about the CSA's attempt to draw the UK and France into the Great Unpleasantness.
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15th February 11, 12:57 PM
#7
Why the DEVIL did I say a union of Scotland and Ireland??? I meant Scotland and England. Also, thank you Cajun I had forgotten about the Scotch Rifle Guards. Thinking about it further I recall some mention of a North Carolina Highland Tigers company that was folded in with the 43rd or 34th (cant remember which) North Carolina Infantry. I am uncertain of how factual that is however, it could be a mistaken reference to the South Carolina militia units that existed.
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15th February 11, 02:21 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by Captain_Cogle
Why the DEVIL did I say a union of Scotland and Ireland??? I meant Scotland and England. Also, thank you Cajun I had forgotten about the Scotch Rifle Guards. Thinking about it further I recall some mention of a North Carolina Highland Tigers company that was folded in with the 43rd or 34th (cant remember which) North Carolina Infantry. I am uncertain of how factual that is however, it could be a mistaken reference to the South Carolina militia units that existed.
I think one must make a distinction, though, between the "nickname" of a particular company and the existence of a true "Scottish-themed" unit, like the 79th New York.
Many of the locally raised companies here in NC used an ethnic descriptor, but it never went beyond a name- no kilts, no tartan, etc. :
"The Scotch Boys," Company F, 18th Regiment N.C. Troops (8th Regiment N.C. Volunteers)
"The Scotch Grays," Company E, 40th Regiment N.C. Troops (3rd Regiment N.C. Artillery)
"The Scotch Irish Boys," Company K, 8th Regiment N.C. State Troops
"The Scotch Ireland Grays," Company B, 4th Regiment N.C. State Troops
"The Scotch Tigers," Company D, 51st Regiment N.C. Troops
"The Hibriten Guards," Company F, 26th Regiment N.C. Troops
"The Highland Boys," Company G, 24th Regiment N.C. Troops (14th Regiment N.C. Volunteers)
"The Highland Grays," Company D, 39th Regiment N.C. Troops
"The Highland Guards," Company E, 54th Regiment N.C. Troops
"The Highland Guards," Company G, 25th Regiment N.C. Troops
"The Highland Rangers," Company D, 41st Regiment N.C. Troops (3rd Regiment N.C. Cavalry)
-see the following link for more NC Civil War "flavor":
http://www.statetroopsandvolunteers.com/locdes2.html
I was particularly moved by "The Beaufort Plow Boys," Company B, 61st Regiment N.C. Troops.
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15th February 11, 02:28 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by davidlpope
I think one must make a distinction, though, between the "nickname" of a particular company and the existence of a true "Scottish-themed" unit, like the 79th New York.
Many of the locally raised companies here in NC used an ethnic descriptor, but it never went beyond a name- no kilts, no tartan, etc. :
"The Scotch Boys," Company F, 18th Regiment N.C. Troops (8th Regiment N.C. Volunteers)
"The Scotch Grays," Company E, 40th Regiment N.C. Troops (3rd Regiment N.C. Artillery)
"The Scotch Irish Boys," Company K, 8th Regiment N.C. State Troops
"The Scotch Ireland Grays," Company B, 4th Regiment N.C. State Troops
"The Scotch Tigers," Company D, 51st Regiment N.C. Troops
"The Hibriten Guards," Company F, 26th Regiment N.C. Troops
"The Highland Boys," Company G, 24th Regiment N.C. Troops (14th Regiment N.C. Volunteers)
"The Highland Grays," Company D, 39th Regiment N.C. Troops
"The Highland Guards," Company E, 54th Regiment N.C. Troops
"The Highland Guards," Company G, 25th Regiment N.C. Troops
"The Highland Rangers," Company D, 41st Regiment N.C. Troops (3rd Regiment N.C. Cavalry)
-see the following link for more NC Civil War "flavor":
http://www.statetroopsandvolunteers.com/locdes2.html
I was particularly moved by "The Beaufort Plow Boys," Company B, 61st Regiment N.C. Troops.
I wasnt speaking of simply nicknamed units. Nicknames abounded and almost always was never actually accurate. IE 1st Texas Co.D Starr Rifles, armed with smooth bore muskets.
I was speaking of pre-war units that had a Scottish dress/parade uniform.
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16th February 11, 09:43 AM
#10
All this being said, it occurs to me that if someone wanted to wear tartan, the most historic way would be as a vest. Confederate troops were especially prone to mixing civilian clothes in with their uniforms, and a civilian-cut vest in tartan would not be too out of place.
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