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    That would be interesting...for sure. I would look into that. The main reason for Scotland is heritage.

    It funny with G. Washington, J. Adams (both), and T. Jefferson so interested in heraldry that we didn't come up with our own office. I do understand the reason at the time being disdain for ANYTHING old world, elite, or noble. Even the Society of Cincinnati got remarks about it when it was created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVHighlander View Post
    That would be interesting...for sure. I would look into that. The main reason for Scotland is heritage.

    It funny with G. Washington, J. Adams (both), and T. Jefferson so interested in heraldry that we didn't come up with our own office. I do understand the reason at the time being disdain for ANYTHING old world, elite, or noble. Even the Society of Cincinnati got remarks about it when it was created.
    If I remember correctly, the younger John Adams wrote home to his wife instructing her to have his arms removed from their carriage after they became a political liability.

    The attitudes that led to this still seem to be going strong today.

    As Jim said in one of his posts above, one of the reasons for pursuing a personal coat of arms is a sense of pride in one's ancestors, heritage, and family - this is the principal motivation of my desire to one day petition arms for myself.

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    Actually it was the elder John Adams who instructed Abigail to have it removed from their carriage during his time in Washington. This was due to the political attacks against him painting him as royal supporting from all of his time in England etc etc etc. (The political fights between him and Jefferson and Hamilton are something to read.) However, he still maintained the arms and used them later in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVHighlander View Post
    That would be interesting...for sure. I would look into that. The main reason for Scotland is heritage.

    It funny with G. Washington, J. Adams (both), and T. Jefferson so interested in heraldry that we didn't come up with our own office. I do understand the reason at the time being disdain for ANYTHING old world, elite, or noble. Even the Society of Cincinnati got remarks about it when it was created.
    The AHS had a nice collection of articles on the arms of American Presidents:

    http://www.americanheraldry.org/page...n=Main.Notable

    Washington was the most enthusiastic about heraldry, and said that there was nothing incompatiable with the Republic in a letter to a fellow who wanted to form an American "college of arms" after the Revolution. I don't think the Adamses or TJ shared Washington's enthusiasm, although as you state, they did have their own arms.

    My favorite president, Theodore Roosevelt, was also "dee-lighted" in bearing arms, and reportedly had a tattoo of them somewhere on his body.

    T.

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