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26th March 11, 01:38 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by creagdhubh
I am not discussing, nor have I thus far in regards to this topic, non-Scots.
By non-Scot, I mean someone who is not a citizen/resident of Scotland. I am not talking about those who identify themselves as "Scottish". American citizens are "non-Scots".
Kenneth Mansfield
NON OBLIVISCAR
My tartan quilt: Austin, Campbell, Hamilton, MacBean, MacFarlane, MacLean, MacRae, Robertson, Sinclair (and counting)
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26th March 11, 01:48 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer
By non-Scot, I mean someone who is not a citizen/resident of Scotland. I am not talking about those who identify themselves as "Scottish". American citizens are "non-Scots".
I know what you mean Kenneth and I agree with you. I am well aware that Americans are "non-Scots" in the terms you putforth.
Slainte,
Last edited by creagdhubh; 26th March 11 at 01:54 PM.
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26th March 11, 01:50 PM
#3
Those areas coloured pink on old maps..
 Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer
By non-Scot, I mean someone who is not a citizen/resident of Scotland. I am not talking about those who identify themselves as "Scottish". American citizens are "non-Scots".
Just remember that both British offices of arms extend "the imperial mandate" to all corners of the globe formerly part of the Empire, whilst the Irish office of arms embraces those of provable Irish descent world wide.
I mention this because, it would seem, that someone born in British India, or whose father or grandfather was born in British India (or elsewhere in the Empire), should qualify for a substantive grant of arms from either the College or the Lord Lyon.
Hmmm. Another set of doors open wide?
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26th March 11, 01:51 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Just remember that both British offices of arms extend "the imperial mandate" to all corners of the globe formerly part of the Empire, whilst the Irish office of arms embraces those of provable Irish descent world wide.
I mention this because, it would seem, that someone born in British India, or whose father or grandfather was born in British India, should qualify for a substantive grant of arms from either the College or the Lord Lyon.
Hmmm. Another set of doors open wide?
Interesting Scott...doors wide open I would say!!!
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26th March 11, 02:48 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Just remember that both British offices of arms extend "the imperial mandate" to all corners of the globe formerly part of the Empire, whilst the Irish office of arms embraces those of provable Irish descent world wide.
I mention this because, it would seem, that someone born in British India, or whose father or grandfather was born in British India (or elsewhere in the Empire), should qualify for a substantive grant of arms from either the College or the Lord Lyon.
Hmmm. Another set of doors open wide?
I keep missing whole pages of this discussion.
The College of Arms will only grant honorary grants to all but British citizens (or maybe also to those still in Commonwealth nations). Grants to Americans, for instance, are NOT substantive. Lyon won't even recognize them.
Kenneth Mansfield
NON OBLIVISCAR
My tartan quilt: Austin, Campbell, Hamilton, MacBean, MacFarlane, MacLean, MacRae, Robertson, Sinclair (and counting)
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