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    "I saw a lot more of you than I wanted to see."

    "Oh, well...then it's nice to finally meet you, Superman...how's that x-ray vision thing workin' out for ya?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKScott View Post
    Was this someone who potentially lived through the entire decade of the 1960s without ever getting laid?
    Hey, I resemble that comment!

    (Of course, any one who had engaged in carnal knowledge with me back then would have gone to jail for child abuse. )

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    I think it's a sociological thing. A buddy of mine is a kilted bartender at the Bullfrog Brewery here in town and someone made a wise crack when he slightly lifted his outer apron to dry his hands. My friend tried to explain about the inner and outer aprons and lifted the outer to show him there was no danger of reveal but the guy just turned away in disgust and yelled, "I don't need to see it!" before the apron was even up. He wouldn't even look at the bartender for the next few minutes just in case he saw something. most folks in America are poorly informed about the kilt and have no tolerance for any ideas other than what are already in thier heads. They may even see your junk pop out when it did not, imagining a peice of leg as the dreaded batch because they looked away before they actually saw anything and thier imagination did the rest. Some of it is cultural, some is homophobia (as if seeing your junk would make them gay), some is self repression gone too far. Whatever the reason I just roll my eyes and walk away. Better that than try to educate the unteachable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thescot View Post
    OH, heck, why not just give in to the urge. I would have had to inform him of my very low opinion of him and his breeding, and then I just might have upped the kilt and strongly suggested that he kiss it where the sun rarely shines--right on the cute caboose.

    Rude and obnoxious people should be treated in like manner. The real point here is that he obviously did not see anything out of the way; he was only being obnoxious. A very real fault of mine is that I do not suffer fools gladly, especially when they choose to assault me.

    But then, I usually find that verbal sparring with someone like that is akin to picking a fight with a crippled child.
    Maybe I misspoke... or mistyped as the case would be. He was very polite about it- almost shy about mentioning it! At least, the person in most recent occasion. The first one was someone being rude and obnoxious, and I did indeed show her the Sponge Bob. But the guy this last weekend, it was obvious from his demeanor that he was trying to be as polite and helpful as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by biblemonkey View Post
    I think it's a sociological thing. A buddy of mine is a kilted bartender at the Bullfrog Brewery here in town and someone made a wise crack when he slightly lifted his outer apron to dry his hands. My friend tried to explain about the inner and outer aprons and lifted the outer to show him there was no danger of reveal but the guy just turned away in disgust and yelled, "I don't need to see it!" before the apron was even up. He wouldn't even look at the bartender for the next few minutes just in case he saw something. most folks in America are poorly informed about the kilt and have no tolerance for any ideas other than what are already in thier heads. They may even see your junk pop out when it did not, imagining a peice of leg as the dreaded batch because they looked away before they actually saw anything and thier imagination did the rest. Some of it is cultural, some is homophobia (as if seeing your junk would make them gay), some is self repression gone too far. Whatever the reason I just roll my eyes and walk away. Better that than try to educate the unteachable.
    Now that makes a lot sense!! I figured his imagination was filling the blanks... so to speak.
    "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.

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    A good portion of my university studies were focused on psychology, and one thing I found was that the human mind is very susceptible to suggestion; especially if that suggestion comes from within!

    Had you lifted your kilt to show your "caboose" to this fellow, I've little doubt he would have been just as surprised to see what was under there as you were that he accused you of being indiscreet.

    All it takes is a train of thought (pun intended) like this: "That man is wearing a kilt. You're not supposed to wear anything under the kilt. What if the wind lifts his kilt? There was a gust of wind and I saw a bit more leg than I'm used to. Or did I see more than that? I DID see more than that!"

    People often let their imaginations convince them of a false reality, especially when confronted with something unexpected.

    That's why you should be cautious when listening to witness testimony!

    I'm not excusing his rude behaviour, but convincing yourself that you've seen something you haven't is entirely human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cygnus View Post
    A good portion of my university studies were focused on psychology, and one thing I found was that the human mind is very susceptible to suggestion; especially if that suggestion comes from within!

    Had you lifted your kilt to show your "caboose" to this fellow, I've little doubt he would have been just as surprised to see what was under there as you were that he accused you of being indiscreet.

    All it takes is a train of thought (pun intended) like this: "That man is wearing a kilt. You're not supposed to wear anything under the kilt. What if the wind lifts his kilt? There was a gust of wind and I saw a bit more leg than I'm used to. Or did I see more than that? I DID see more than that!"

    People often let their imaginations convince them of a false reality, especially when confronted with something unexpected.

    That's why you should be cautious when listening to witness testimony!

    I'm not excusing his rude behaviour, but convincing yourself that you've seen something you haven't is entirely human.

    Ya, what he said.

    Although you may have also been giving off unconscious signals of some sort, Hawk. At least you wern't wearing your jingle bell boxers...
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    Cygnus, you do have a good and valid point. My own undergraduate degree being a BSc in psych, I remember studying the witness recall experiments where the researchers could "plant" false memories like seeds into eyewitnesses, which then took root, became ingrained and grew into something that never happened. (Holst & Pezdek, 2006) in Applied Cognitive Psychology. Even more relevant (in this particular study) is that it specifically addressed the idea of a typical robbery scene. Much the same way, a very typical expectation in seeing someone wearing a kilt is that they are going commando.

    In another experiment, researchers were able to "plant" false childhood memories and force people to recall them. (Pezdek, Finger, and Hodge, 1997) in Psychological Science.

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    I've always assumed (chose that verb on purpose!) that the thought process went like this;

    1 - He mustn't accidentally expose himself to the children!

    2 - I must stop him!

    3 - If I warn him, he'll just say he'll be very careful.

    4 - I'll tell him he's already done it once, so he'll listen to me.

    Now, what exactly did they steam up? (I do believe that the D&RGW Baldwin C16 is the prettiest thing man has ever created.) :mrgreen:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Java View Post
    I've always assumed (chose that verb on purpose!) that the thought process went like this;

    1 - He mustn't accidentally expose himself to the children!

    2 - I must stop him!

    3 - If I warn him, he'll just say he'll be very careful.

    4 - I'll tell him he's already done it once, so he'll listen to me.

    Now, what exactly did they steam up? (I do believe that the D&RGW Baldwin C16 is the prettiest thing man has ever created.) :mrgreen:

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    I feel your pain Hawk. I've been accused of "southern exposure" on three different occasions...each with its own level of ridiculousness.

    The first time was at a holiday event in the park. Two...ahem..."ladies" came up to me to inform me that "several people have complained that they can see your privates." I lifted the pleats enough to reveal the hem of my boxer briefs and told them, very politely, "Your little group is packed with either liars or people with very vivid imaginations." They appologized and left me alone.

    The third time was at a function at my wife's school. The Superintendant informed me that his niece saw bits she shouldn't have. I told him that wasn't likely unless she happened to be IN the urinal in the mens restroom. We stepped around the corner of the building, I showed him my drawers, and his niece wound up grounded for two weeks when her folks found out.

    The second time may have been the best...a couple of BIG dudes were going to whip my @$$ because I flashed their wives/girlfriends/whatevers. Some very drunk woman, who had been kilt-checking me every time she got within reach, grabbed the apron, pulled it straight up and yelled "Bull_____!! He's wearing undies!" Embarassing, but still better than what was about to happen.

    Whether people "think" they see something, "imagine" seeing something, "believe" they will see something, "hope" they saw/will see something, or intentionally get a peek, if they don't actually see something they should just shut up and move on. It's unfortunate that some people have such a hard time with a guy in a kilt. I know it makes them uncomfortable, but that's their problem.
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