"Jacobite" garb

[Erikm]

Had a question Why were there heart shapes on Jacobite item's, sporrans and other things. Was there a meaning for these?

[Captain_Cogle]

Had a question Why were there heart shapes on Jacobite item's, sporrans and other things. Was there a meaning for these?

You will find playing card symbols on a great many things from the period. Not just Jacobite or Scottish. It was just a trend really both North America and Europe did it. All manner of items would have hearts, spades, diamonds and clubs on them not just weaponry related stuff. In the later half of the 18th century it was starting to be fazed out by Pineapples...

[Erikm]

Ty thanks

[Woodsheal]

It must have been earlier in this thread that we discussed 'bodkins' for pinning up one's plaid (I'm too lazy to look!).

Anyways, here are some nice bone and horn examples like the one I use:

http://www.96storehouse.com/OurStore...1/Default.aspx

[Dale Seago]

It must have been earlier in this thread that we discussed 'bodkins' for pinning up one's plaid (I'm too lazy to look!).

Anyways, here are some nice bone and horn examples like the one I use:

http://www.96storehouse.com/OurStore...1/Default.aspx

I may have missed it but I don't think it WAS discussed. Nice examples there, thanks for posting!

To the best of my recollection "plaid brooches" didn't come into vogue until after The Forty-Five, with annular (ring) brooches in particular being a women's adornment. I have a suspicion which will probably never be substantiated that their use by men may have begun with lads on campaign being given them by their lasses back home as keepsakes, ultimately turning into a badge proclaiming that the wearer had something better than sheep waiting to keep him warm on cold nights. I think soldiers in all cultures and time periods are prone to brag about such things. . .

[The Bear]

It must have been earlier in this thread that we discussed 'bodkins' for pinning up one's plaid (I'm too lazy to look!).

Anyways, here are some nice bone and horn examples like the one I use:

http://www.96storehouse.com/OurStore...1/Default.aspx

Woodsheal. How would you use this to hold the plaid on the shoulder? it might sound like a stupid question bu i want to be sure how to do it before i get one. I got a pennanular brooch but its really hard to keep it in place wi that. Keeps slipping out of my jacket.

[Dale Seago]

I'll let Woodsheal address that one, just want to point out that -- though I love 'em -- the penannular style went out of use several hundred years before the Gael began using the belted plaid.

[The Bear]

I'll let Woodsheal address that one, just want to point out that -- though I love 'em -- the penannular style went out of use several hundred years before the Gael began using the belted plaid.

I have heard that people in the highlands were not wearing them during the 45 but im not sure its correct. Dr tony pollard the Director of the Centre for Battlefield Archaeology at Glasgow University and archaeologist for Culloden has found some in and around the field. Now it could be that they were droped in the area years before but he's dated them to the 1600s. People could have handed them down through the family up untill the 1700s. So it could be that they were still in use. Im sure they were not as popular and wouldnt have been all celtic but i think some would still be using brooches.

[Woodsheal]

Woodsheal. How would you use this to hold the plaid on the shoulder? it might sound like a stupid question bu i want to be sure how to do it before i get one. I got a pennanular brooch but its really hard to keep it in place wi that. Keeps slipping out of my jacket.

Here's a pic of my plaid pinned to the shoulder with a bone bodkin:



It will hold it quite securely. If you're worried about holes in your coat, use a thinner pin. Granny's old brass- or silver-headed hat pins work great, too! You can always find antique hatpins on ebay, or locally....

[Cynthia]

Thanks for the replies, Woodsheal! I had spotted a plain, shorter hatpin a while back and wondered if it would work. I like that idea, and will keep my eye out for a few when the time comes (I need to get some hatpins soon, myself).