"Jacobite" garb

[Erikm]

Also did they wear flashes in 1745? I seen pics it looked like something at the top part of the sock like tassels?

[Sir William]

Also did they wear flashes in 1745? I seen pics it looked like something at the top part of the sock like tassels?

They wore garters (at least that is how they are referred to today), not flashes. They took a length of wool or wool tape, wrapped it around the upper part of the hose and tied it off. The top of the hose was not folded down as it is today.

[Sir William]

Mismatched tartans are perfectly acceptable, including "clashing" colors. While to many modern eyes this glares a bit, I find it rather refreshing.

If you look through contemporary paintings you'll notice that some wear completely contrasting tartans, some may have two garments that match, and some may have an entire outfit (including tartan hose) that matches. Last evening I found a drawing of a Jacobite wearing tartan breeches and hose of different tartans instead of the usual one piece trews. It's giving me some ideas...

Also, unless you can date a tartan to pre-1745, try to get a generic tartan that can't be identified by the tartan spotters.

[Woodsheal]

Agree with everything Sir William says. Looking good, Erik...!

[Erikm]

Ty everyone I got the coat and baghose,from Barkerstown Sutlers she did a great job.

The Small kilt I got was just cheap, it says it has no meaning.
it's light brown with blue and red, but there is just something about the colors I just dont like..

Later on when the money is right, I will go for a belted plaid, could you recommend a color for the tartan? I like the one your wearing in the very first pic woodsheal and a place to get one?

Thanks sorry for all the questions

[Woodsheal]

Ty everyone I got the coat and baghose,from Barkerstown Sutlers she did a great job..

Missy is one of the the best...!

http://www.barkertownsutlers.com/

I've always picked up generic tartan plaids at the local fabric store. You have to get lucky, but often you can find 100% wool fabric - or at least a high wool content....

[Sir William]

I'll second Woodsheal about Missy.

She sometimes gets a bit behind but I've never been disappointed with the results.

Unlike Woodsheal, I've not had much luck finding generic tartans at our local fabric stores. However, I've found some at the local RenFaire, some at a local colonial market fair, and some from (of all places) a Civil War sutler. If I can find at least 4 yards it probably becomes a great kilt, but if not I'll turn it into a waistcoat or jacket.

[creagdhubh]

Thanks to the mods for initiating this forum! I'll start the ball rolling....

We occasionally hear mention of "Jacobite" items of clothing, be it "Jacobite Jackets" or "Jacobite Shirts." The problem here is that the period of the Jacobite Risings in Scotland encompassed the period from 1689 to 1746, and fashions changed and evolved quite a bit during that stretch of years (even in the "backwards" Highlands!).

Here's a look from the beginning of the period, with belted plaid, hodden grey doublet, and woad-dyed blue bonnet:



And here's one fromthe tail-end of the period, the `45 Rising, with philabeg, tartan coat, and indigo-dyed bonnet (indigo imports got cheaper in the intervening years) with the white cockade (not worn in earlier risings):



Quite a different look between the two extremes of the Jacobite era...!

You look great!!!

[Woodsheal]

You look great!!!

Thank you, sir! Wish I still had that Dutch musket...!

[Erikm]

Thanks very much