Absurd kilt myths

[macwilkin]

The area I live in has some of the worst schools in the nation (and some of the highest dollar per student averages, so lack of money is not the cause). There are places with excellent under-paid, under-valued teachers. Then there is Arizona...

Back to kilts, gents...

Todd

[Daaaaang]

I got into an argument yesterday with a guy who insisted that kilts were Irish and Welsh as well as Scottish. I even showed him Matt's article about it. He told me the article was not credible.

I guess his word with nothing to back it up is more credible than an article written by someone who has basically devoted his life to the history of the kilt?

Some people. I like arguing as much as the next guy, but when I lose the argument, I like to think of it as an opportunity to correct my "knowledge" and learn a little. Losing an argument doesn't make you dumb, it just means you chose the wrong side and the other person knows more than you.

I dislike people who value winning an argument over being actually correct.

[Arlen]

I even showed him Matt's article about it. He told me the article was not credible.

*Sighs* Some people.


I had a similar argument with my sister, recently. She told me that not only was Matt's article not credible because he's American,. but that she was right because her friend's sister said so.


If only more people were willing to admit they were wrong the history of the kilt wouldn't be so muddled.

[TheSp8]

[QUOTE=Arlen;461944she was right because her friend's sister said so.
[/QUOTE]

You can't get more authoritative than that. Really Arlen, you must learn to recognize expertise when you see it. I guess we must all continue to resist the forces of darkness.

YMOS,
Tony

[Ian.MacAllan]

. . . not only was Matt's article not credible because he's American,. but that she was right because her friend's sister said so. . . .

Never underestimate the power of an attractive fantasy or of an argumentum ad hominem. Many people not only have never studied logic themselves but also have never entertained the idea that it is even possible to do so.

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[Ozman1944]

Amen! Verily, Prithee hither and tarry not;
Behold! Her Friend's Sister hath thpoken-er, spoken!!! How can anything as puny as Matt's years of investigation, knowledge and expertise stand up against such powerful all embracing intellect as Her Friend's Sister?
I bow in humble submission; now the whole world knows: Matt is not credible - because he is an American.
So, you actually DO have to be a cow, to know what milk is!:butt:

[macwilkin]

So, you actually DO have to be a cow, to know what milk is!

Reminds me of when a reporter asked President Dwight Eisenhower if he considered himself a Texan because he was born in Texas -- Ike replied:

"If a cat has kittens in the oven, do you call them biscuits?"

T.

[beowulf67]

Back to the original post:
Arlen, when he said started talking about the Kilt Police, you should have told him you were wearing tweed because you ARE the Kilt Police but you're working undercover.
Then thank him for being a good citizen and keeping an eye on everyones kilts.

[bikeolounger]

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Yes, I am an American and therefore am genetically incapable of knowing anything about kilts and tartan, no matter how much I study the subject. On the other hand, I was born with an amazing amount of knowledge about cowboys and baseball. :-)

Seriously, I sometimes encounter this attitude myself, usually (though not always) from native Scots who have some deeply held opinions regarding their national dress.

If it can help, I can always point to the works of native Scot tartan scholars to corroborate my own writings. But really, there has been so much good, accurate information regarding the history of the kilt made available lately that people really do have no excuse for persisting in ignorance (no matter their nationality).