clan associations

**Graham A. Robieson** · 30th November 10, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Livingston

Graham, the Livingston's were prominent in Linlithgow.

Lords Livingston (1458-1600)
James Livingston, 1st Lord Livingston (d. 1467)
James Livingston, 2nd Lord Livingston (d. 1497)
James Livingston, 3rd Lord Livingston (d. 1503)
William Livingston, 4th Lord Livingston (d. 1518) {a lineal descendant was Rev. John Livingston, father of Robert Livingston the Elder of New York.}
Alexander Livingston, 5th Lord Livingston (d. 1550)
William Livingstone, 6th Lord Livingston (d. 1592)
Alexander Livingston, 7th Lord Livingston (d. 1623) (created Earl of Linlithgow in 1600)

Earls of Linlithgow (1600-1716)
Alexander Livingston, 1st Earl of Linlithgow (d. 1623)
Alexander Livingston, 2nd Earl of Linlithgow (d. 1650)
George Livingston, 3rd Earl of Linlithgow (1616-1690)
George Livingston, 4th Earl of Linlithgow (d. 1695)
James Livingston, 5th Earl of Linlithgow, 4th Earl of Callendar (d. 1723) (attainted 1716) married Margaret Hay {d.1723}. Children: Lord Livingston {d.1715} and Anne Livingston {d.1747} married 4th Earl of Kilmarnock (attainted/forfeit 1746) from whom are descended the Earls of Erroll

That's interesting...thanks for the info Livingston, I think that would be helpful to bricekolob looking for possible clan connections, maybe you can pass that on to him.

All the best,

Graham

**kilted hillbilly** · 8th February 11, 09:42 AM

Altho I am a member of the Clan MacPherson assocation I have not been able to verify my geneology.Seems we run out of links before we can trace our name back over the pond. Grandpa always said we were Scotch-Irish,so thats all I can go on.

**NewEnglander** · 8th February 11, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by kilted hillbilly

Altho I am a member of the Clan MacPherson assocation I have not been able to verify my geneology.Seems we run out of links before we can trace our name back over the pond. Grandpa always said we were Scotch-Irish,so thats all I can go on.

Welcome, Cousin! I've found Ancestry.com to be a great resource, perhaps because my part of the clan settled in Canada first before heading down to the States. Canadian census records are incredible. The Clan website also has some genealogy resources as well.
http://www.clan-macpherson.org/genealogy.php

Best of luck!

**Father Bill** · 21st February 11, 03:23 PM

Being of Jewish descent, I guess I belong to the Clan MacGoldstein, and I haven't been able to find a contact address for the association yet.

**ForresterModern** · 22nd February 11, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Father Bill

Being of Jewish descent, I guess I belong to the Clan MacGoldstein, and I haven't been able to find a contact address for the association yet.

Ah but there are jewish and rabbinical tartans of several sorts now I undestand.

**Father Bill** · 22nd February 11, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by ForresterModern

Ah but there are jewish and rabbinical tartans of several sorts now I undestand.

Of course there are . . . but although technically according to my Rabbi, I am a Jew, obviously with my clerical collar I am a practising (haven't quite got it right yet) Christian.

Ah well, a foot in each camp

Honestly, I don't see as great a divide as has been created over two thousand years of divergent history, but then I guess I'm somewhat heretical in that.

**MadMouser** · 14th March 11, 12:09 PM

I'm a half-and-half, my father's side is French-Canadian (St. Jean, Le Brun) and my mother's is English (Sellers, Hargreaves). But there are some Robert/Roberts on my paternal grandmother's side.

Still like kilts, probably going to pick up something in Maple Leaf next...

Pat

**rmckay** · 16th March 11, 12:06 PM

I voted no, because right now I am not a paying member of any society. I was a paying member of Clan MacKay for several years, but family life just made it difficult to go to games or be able to contribute anything to the society, so I let my membership lapse. In the resulting time away I have discovered other things about my family history and while I will always be a MacKay, its the whole last name thing, but my branch of MacKay came to the US from Argyllshire in the 1700's and the MacKay's from there are supposed to be a sept of Clan Donald. I have found lots of conflicting information on whether or not the 2 branches of MacKay's are related, so for now I am just gonna stay out of clan societies and enjoy being kilted.

**Mike_Oettle** · 22nd February 11, 08:23 AM

Yes, Jeff, one of the Jewish tartans (Shalom, or perhaps Hebron) might suit Father Bill well.
But since he belongs to an episcopal church, he could also wear one of the various Clergy tartans.
The rabbinical tartan does not seem quite appropriate, but we could ask Rabbi Pazo’s opinion on that one.
And I think one would have difficulty tracking down a Clan MacGoldstein . . .
Regards,
Mike

**macwilkin** · 22nd February 11, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Mike_Oettle

Yes, Jeff, one of the Jewish tartans (Shalom, or perhaps Hebron) might suit Father Bill well.
But since he belongs to an episcopal church, he could also wear one of the various Clergy tartans.
The rabbinical tartan does not seem quite appropriate, but we could ask Rabbi Pazo’s opinion on that one.
And I think one would have difficulty tracking down a Clan MacGoldstein . . .
Regards,
Mike

The Gordon tartan would also be appropriate, since it is the de facto Jewish tartan in Scotland.

TJW