Interesting email from an Irish fellow about Irish kilts.

[davedove]

There is the idea that Celtic culture migrated to Britain rather than Celtic people.

I have also read that. It's wasn't a mass migration or anything like that, more of a trading relationship and the spread of goods and ideas, especially the iron tools of the celtic peoples.

[Galician]

Hmmm, I've seen this thought pop up in some of the threads where Celtic identity has been discussed (fought over? ) I think that calling trade the spread of culture is like calling Eastern Europeans Americans, because they play rock, and wear tees and flipflops.

[The Guy in the Kilt at UC]

Hmmm, I've seen this thought pop up in some of the threads where Celtic identity has been discussed (fought over? ) I think that calling trade the spread of culture is like calling Eastern Europeans Americans, because they play rock, and wear tees and flipflops.

It would also be the spread of the language. Like the English language crossing the Atlantic. A lot of our culture comes from those islands (especially the fabulous garments found in the north). Some of it comes from migration, but not all of it. Eventually the two became different cultures, to an extent. I don't know, but I imagine it was the same 3000 years ago.

[O'Callaghan]

Actually, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands are crown dependencies deemed to be outside the UK.

Then why does my passport say the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands?

[O'Callaghan]

Probably a typo but he was James I of England.

Sorry, you are quite right!

[The Guy in the Kilt at UC]

Then why does my passport say the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands?

I thought that Great Britain was the big island (you know: England, Scotland & Wales) and the United Kingdom was included North Ireland and so on. But of course I may be getting most of this from the movie King Ralph.

[Phil]

I thought that Great Britain was the big island (you know: England, Scotland & Wales) and the United Kingdom was included North Ireland and so on. But of course I may be getting most of this from the movie King Ralph.

For nationality purposes the Channel Islands and Isle of man (Crown dependencies - possessions of the Crown) are deemed to be of British nationality. The United Kingdom itself comprises only England, Scotland and Wales (Great Britain) and Northern Ireland. Britain came about after the Union of The Crowns between Scotland and England in 1603 when James VI of Scotland assumed the crown of both kingdoms. At the time Wales was considered an integral part of England as a principality as was Ireland being part of the English crown following its conquest in Tudor times, Henry VIII being declared king of Ireland. Hence Great Britain was essentially Scotland together with England (incorporating Wales and Ireland). Simple isn't it?

[GreenDragon]

To quote Steve-O from SLC Punk! "Who cares who started it!?!"

[Chas]

Then why does my passport say the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands?

Mine doesn't.

The Cover:



Pages 1 and 2



No mention of the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands.

Is your passport current?

Regards

Chas

[thanmuwa]

For nationality purposes the Channel Islands and Isle of man (Crown dependencies - possessions of the Crown) are deemed to be of British nationality. The United Kingdom itself comprises only England, Scotland and Wales (Great Britain) and Northern Ireland. Britain came about after the Union of The Crowns between Scotland and England in 1603 when James VI of Scotland assumed the crown of both kingdoms. At the time Wales was considered an integral part of England as a principality as was Ireland being part of the English crown following its conquest in Tudor times, Henry VIII being declared king of Ireland. Hence Great Britain was essentially Scotland together with England (incorporating Wales and Ireland). Simple isn't it?

Close, but no cigar . The Kingdom of Ireland was a seperate kingdom from 1542 until the act of Union in 1801. So England did incorporate Wales as a principality but not Ireland, which remained a seperate kingdom until 200 years after Scotland was subsumed. Simples. You want meerkats, comparethemeerkat.com.