Almost A Kilt

**bikercelt1** · 19th July 05, 02:58 PM

Even "regular" shorts are knee length these days, and I too have sometimes thought I saw someone else wearing a kilt only to realise it was shorts. I used this somewhat to my advantage though, when my employer banned my kilt I started wearing carhart shorts to work. It was obstinancy on my part, I know, but it is as far as I could push the issue and as close to a kilt as I could get without looking for a new job. The irony is not missed by anyone who knows the situation. They all think its ludicrous that shorts are okay but the kilt is not, and they periodically tell the boss that. Maybe someday my kilts will find their way back to the approved list.

Jamie

**Bill** · 19th July 05, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by bikercelt1

Even "regular" shorts are knee length these days, and I too have sometimes thought I saw someone else wearing a kilt only to realise it was shorts. I used this somewhat to my advantage though, when my employer banned my kilt I started wearing carhart shorts to work. It was obstinancy on my part, I know, but it is as far as I could push the issue and as close to a kilt as I could get without looking for a new job. The irony is not missed by anyone who knows the situation. They all think its ludicrous that shorts are okay but the kilt is not, and they periodically tell the boss that. Maybe someday my kilts will find their way back to the approved list.

Jamie

In the HP commercial mention in another thread on of the band members wore a pair of those knee length baggy monstrocities. Hope the kilt does make it back on the dress code at work Jamie.
I'm pullin' for ya! Remember we're all in this together!

BTW: I see you've been watching "Red Green" too. ;)

Bill

**davedove** · 20th July 05, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by bikercelt1

Even "regular" shorts are knee length these days, and I too have sometimes thought I saw someone else wearing a kilt only to realise it was shorts. I used this somewhat to my advantage though, when my employer banned my kilt I started wearing carhart shorts to work. It was obstinancy on my part, I know, but it is as far as I could push the issue and as close to a kilt as I could get without looking for a new job. The irony is not missed by anyone who knows the situation. They all think its ludicrous that shorts are okay but the kilt is not, and they periodically tell the boss that. Maybe someday my kilts will find their way back to the approved list.

Jamie

The only possible reason I can think of to ban the wearing of kilts, but not shorts, is if you couldn't wear loose clothing for safety reasons. Other than that it's got to be pure bias and ignorance. I hope you and your coworkers can make your employer see the light.

**Jimmy Carbomb** · 20th July 05, 10:34 AM

Suppose it's threads like this that has SportKilts producing things like this?

They now have a Camo actual pair of shorts, whereas they used to carry Royal Stewart.

**Kilts_Knave** · 20th July 05, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by bikercelt1

my employer banned my kilt

I don't want to be nosey, but I can't help it -- how can your employer ban you from wearing any particular garment, especially a kilt? Got any lawyers in your family? hehehe

**cavscout** · 20th July 05, 11:15 AM

I started wearing my UK Survival to work a few months ago. It arrived the week before St. Patricks Day so I used that opportunity to jump right in. Of course everyone thought it was a one time thing

Fortunately the companies owner was very positive about the kilt! This has made my situation sooooo much easier. I'm now wearing it every Friday and hardly get any comments and those are friendly ribbing or "oh, I thought you had on cargo shorts". I'll stretch it to more days per week as soon as my USA Gordon Modern arrives.

The interesting evolution of this is that the companies owner is considering buying a UK. He ran into a musician in Atlanta wearing the exact same Survival I have so he's getting more comfortable with the idea. He wears about a 35 short UK so if anyone is getting rid of one let me know, he may want it. Unfortunately I'm a 38 or I would lone him mine, once my Gordon Modern arrives!!

I'll be very interested to see how the rest of the staff reacts if he does begin wearing a kilt?

**bikercelt1** · 20th July 05, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by kilt_nave

I don't want to be nosey, but I can't help it -- how can your employer ban you from wearing any particular garment, especially a kilt? Got any lawyers in your family? hehehe

It's not a safety issue it's a personal bias. I work in a family owned motorcycle store. The "golden rule" applies, they have the gold so they get to make the rules. I could press the issue but I'd end up having to work somewhere else. Just another one of the choices one makes in life.

Jamie

P.S. they justify their opinion by pointing out that the employee handbook requires us to have a professional appearance for which they provide uniform shirts and the kilt is not in keeping with that requirement.

**Archangel** · 21st July 05, 07:53 PM

something about this thread has been bothering me,philosophically and practically, for a few days so I thought I'd mention it. Some of us are sounding quite judgemental and I have to ask: are we asking people to have (a) an open-minded attitude to (b) our choice (i.e. kilts), or are we asking people to (c) accept only kilts?
If the answer is (a), then I'm with you. However, it follows that we should demonstrate that open-minded attitude to their choice, therefore not (b).
If the answer is (c), I have to strongly disagree. Is the kilt the only alternative to nudity or a pin-stripe suit or whatever the basic choice would be? Should we become fashion nazis and impose our clothing standards on others. I see a parallel to those who would spiritualize personal choices and call on the heavens to condemn those who disagree.
Wearing a kilt is not a black or white decision, it is part of a clothing continuum that we should all be able to participate in. Otherwise, we are simply turning those prejudices, continuing them, and applying them to others instead of making the choice to stop the pattern. In a very real sense, in this situation, when we point a finger, we have three pointing back at us.

Keeping things in perspective: remember, at the end of the day, if God had wanted us to be naked, He would have made us that way.

**bubba** · 21st July 05, 08:39 PM

Archangel, options other than kilts are pretty well covered on other boards, this one is for kilts. That's how it was set up which is why there isn't any discussion here about sarongs, broom skirts or miniskirts. Some, if not most, of us left other boards and came here because we aren't interested in the fashion freedom thing, we are interested in kilts. Personally, I left another board completely because I'm not interested in "causes" and I got fed up being told I "must" support the cause of fashion freedom. This board is for and about kilts, highland wear and associated topics.

**Archangel** · 21st July 05, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by bubba

Archangel, options other than kilts are pretty well covered on other boards, this one is for kilts. That's how it was set up which is why there isn't any discussion here about sarongs, broom skirts or miniskirts. Some, if not most, of us left other boards and came here because we aren't interested in the fashion freedom thing, we are interested in kilts. Personally, I left another board completely because I'm not interested in "causes" and I got fed up being told I "must" support the cause of fashion freedom.

not what I'm talking about, I'm here to discuss kilts. Period. I'm talking about the two way street, the give and take.
Here's what I'm trying to address: there seemed to a mocking of other peoples choices, even challenging them. At the same time, we are asking people not to do that when we choose to wear a kilt, and that's the point at which these "causes" coincide.
You and I agree if you can see that the subtext of mockery and challenge represent a "cause": if we can reject that and not get caught up in it then we can stick to the subject of kilt.