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30th December 08, 09:58 PM
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A Bit of a Reach, If You Ask Me
 Originally Posted by Cawdorian
A historical note; Queen Victoria commissioned the Brown (family) tartan especially for John Brown. The Brown (family)tartan is primarily red and black and is a beautiful tartan.
She loved Scotland and all things Scottish.
Actually, I thought it was commissioned specifically for Mr. Brown, and no one else. If so, than in effect it was his "private" tartan in much the same way that Balmoral tartan is the private tartan of the Royal Family. I think calling it "Brown Family Tartan" is quite a reach... quite a reach, indeed.
Still, it is a good motion picture.
Last edited by MacMillan of Rathdown; 31st December 08 at 11:37 AM.
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30th December 08, 10:47 PM
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 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Actually, I thought it was commissioned specifically for Mr. Brown, and no one else. If effect it was his "private" tartan in much the same way that Balmoral tartan is the private tartan of the Royal Family. I think calling it "Brown Family Tartan" is quite a reach... quite a reach, indeed.
Still, it is a good motion picture.
Like many things related to Highland lore, the Queen Victoria origin tale of the the Brown tartan in question is likely more legend than fact. Mrs. Z has done a bit of research in this area due to her Brown family line, and we have found this Brown tartan listed in books dated prior to 1850. I'm not sure when Victoria and John Brown first met, but I reason it was not much prior to the purchase of Balmoral in around 1851. Her (in)famous close relationship with Brown did not really start till after Prince Albert's death in 1861, so if she commisioned a tartan for him, I think it was not the Brown tartan we are looking at here.
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31st December 08, 10:19 PM
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Last edited by Fedgunner; 31st December 08 at 10:26 PM.
Commissioner of Clan Strachan, Central United States.
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15th March 07, 02:59 PM
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I actually borrowed that from the library again just a week or two ago. You are quite right, it was a very well made movie.
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16th March 07, 07:28 AM
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One of my favorite scenes in the film is when Mr. Brown tells his friend and fellow servant of the Queen that he gets paid an extra 100 pounds a year (or whatever it was) to wear a kilt when he'd be wearing it anyways.
This period in good Queen Vic's life has always fascinated me. The film really does a good job showing just how imprisoned a monarch can be by their own duties and how it's not always good to be the Queen.
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16th March 07, 11:59 AM
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 Originally Posted by Schultz
One of my favorite scenes in the film is when Mr. Brown tells his friend and fellow servant of the Queen that he gets paid an extra 100 pounds a year (or whatever it was) to wear a kilt when he'd be wearing it anyways. This......... .
A good scene. Another was when Mr. Brown seated himself at the dining table, the head of the table, on "My own," authority he told the other servers. Talk about rank.
Go, have fun, don't work at, make it fun! Kilt them, for they know not, what they wear. Where am I now?
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16th March 07, 01:53 PM
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 Originally Posted by Schultz
One of my favorite scenes in the film is when Mr. Brown tells his friend and fellow servant of the Queen that he gets paid an extra 100 pounds a year (or whatever it was) to wear a kilt when he'd be wearing it anyways.
This period in good Queen Vic's life has always fascinated me. The film really does a good job showing just how imprisoned a monarch can be by their own duties and how it's not always good to be the Queen.
From my point of view anything Dame Judi does is wonderful. This is right at the top of my favorites.
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16th March 07, 02:01 PM
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Indeed. Her performance in just about anything can do no harm to a film.
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16th April 07, 02:39 PM
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Does anyone out there have a pic of a kilt done up in the Brown family tartan? I'd love to see one. Swatches don't do it justice I'm sure.
Keith Brown.
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18th April 07, 03:12 PM
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 Originally Posted by keith_b
Does anyone out there have a pic of a kilt done up in the Brown family tartan? I'd love to see one. Swatches don't do it justice I'm sure.
Keith Brown.
Brown tartan is fairly rare, I'm in the process of researching kilt makers to have a Brown "tank" made. I've narrowed my choices down to two.
When my yearly bonus check arrives, the order goes in!
(I'm a Brown from my mothers side.)
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