Native American Kilt.

[CameronTaylor]

I had something completely different in mind when I read the title.
I happened across a pendleton wool piece on Ebay the other night :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pendleton-Wool-F...QQcmdZViewItem

And I was thinking how that might look .....


CT - oops, almost typed the wrong navajo name here

[Bugbear]

The blankets are not twill weave... Ehh, it's a finely packed wep faced type of weave, and I just don't know if a Navajo blanket would work as a belted plaid. That being said, you could put two together and get about four yards to work with... I was thinking the zig-zag paterns I have seen might work. They use a leather kilt like garment in some of the dances if I remember correctly. I'm not sure how it is made though. And the Dine' i grew up with say, "Dine'", but I'm not sure how to write that word with this keyboard, so that's the best I can figure out. It means "the people," and everyone else is "the enemy," but I don't remember that word. I should, I was called that all the time, LOL!

[Tommie]

Thanks Ted.

Guess what- when I typed in Zuni kilt in Google,your post here was the first thing that came up.LOL

Im afraid it would be allmost impossible to find the right patteren and it be the right material,but im not going to give up just yet.

[Bugbear]

Never mind, I removed some of that information.

[way2fractious]

I have been doing a lot of searching and checked out just about every kilt maker on the web,but never found what im looking for.
...
So that said,ive decided to make one of my own.
Been doing some research for different kinds of themes,but finding the right kind of material that will hold a pleat is the problem.

When I started making kilts, I too experimented with various printed patterns on cotton or polyester/cotton fabric - besides camouflage. It's not easy to find a workable fabric with a pattern that has "eye appeal" in terms of colors and pattern size. I bought many yards of unuseable material on ebay just to find a few yards of useable stuff.

One of my early kilts is shown in this thread:

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/t...ighlight=aztec

This was one of my casual, cotton kilts. The setts are not quite right, because the pleats were measured off every six inches, with two-inch reveals. Now a couple years later, if I were to do it again, the measurements would be adjusted to the pattern repeat and the kilt would be pleated to sett.

I have a few other fabrics with printed southwest patterns sitting in boxes awaiting the right time - or the right person to come along with a strong need for such.

w2f

[Tommie]

WOW that is one awesome looking kilt.Nice job.
Kind of the look i want with something near one the patterns i showed.

[Riverkilt]

Hey, been thinking of that too. I'm up here in the Rezlands, right next to the Navajo Nation and I travel to the Hopi reservation a lot.
Here's a pic of Hopi buffalo dancers wearing a garment they translate from the Hopi to English as "kilt" - the two guys in the buffalo head dress. The men weave their own kilts up here. More often they're white with black, green, and red designs. Even though they're not pleated like a Scottish kilt, they're called kilts.



Rare to get a pic of a Hopi dance. My lady got this at her work and it was okay with the Hopi because of the venue, wasn't a sacred dance.

The Navajo people call themselves Dine'. Pronounced like the din in dinner followed by eh like a Canadian ends a sentence.

Sometimes the deerskin skirts some Navajo warriors wore a long time ago are called kilts.

But more than likely a Navajo has some Scot blood in him. I've had many come up to me and say they're 1/4 Scot or Irish and ask about my kilt. A former Navajo girlfriend says Navajo women don't much like Navajo men and prefer to date and marry other races. The Navajo culture has historically been open to other races and other tribes. You'll find a Navajo town called Cameron, and a Navajo Nation former president named MacDonald.

I've been wondering if a person could take the colors from various local Navajo rug styles and use them in a tartan. Sort of Navajo district tartans since blanket styles are regional around the rezlands. Or take the colors of the Navajo Nation flag and weave a tartan of them.





Figure it'd be presumptious for a Bilagaana (Navajo for Anglo) to do that. But the natural dyed colors of the wool in Navajo rugs would make some beautiful tartans. I bought some local dyed Navajo wool at the trading post for Dred to use in my Dredbelly tam.

One could probably make a sharp looking tartan out of the common Hopi colors of white, red, green, and black...but again presumptous for a Bowana (Hopi for Anglo...I think...)

Ron

[Bugbear]

Ya Riverkilt, it screams to be done... I'm glad you're the one laying out the information calling those garments kilts, I don't want my head bitten off. LOL! Thanks. RiverKilt said it not me.

BTW
You really did do a good job explaining all that stuff. I've had to read it a couple of times to soak it all in... um, yes I've heard "Bilagaana" a lot, and some other things. Funny how memories flood back in all of a sudden, LOL!
You might try Egyption kilt in a search too Tommie, but I didn't say anything to you if you get caught shhhh.

[Tommie]

Guess what Ted.
When i replyed to you that your post came up in Gooogle,my reply to you came up there too-just above yours.ROFLMAO

Lets keep posting Zuni kilt and see how many times it comes up in Google.

Good advertising for X Marks Huh.

Now im going to go look see if this one comes up there.

[Bugbear]

Guess that isn't too important and just to use Zuni kilt for your search Tommie. (I removed the long drawn out rambling life history.)