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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketraw View Post
    Gilmore, They no longer have the chance to petition for a grant of arms if they purchase a feudal barony. Since the abolition of feudal tenure in Nov 2004 this has not been possible. Feudal Baronies in the most part were based on 'land superiority' there is no longer land superiority. So purchasing a Barony will not entitle you to petition for a coat of arms. Unless you are already Scots, or have a proven paper chase of Scots decent, or own land in Scotland.
    Yes, I know this. Well, I know that it hasn't been possible because Lyon said it wasn't possible.

    I have heard from informed sources the opinion that the former Lord Lyon was thought to be averse to feudal baronies altogether, and am wondering if the new Lyon shares this alleged aversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilmore View Post
    Yes, I know this. Well, I know that it hasn't been possible because Lyon said it wasn't possible.

    I have heard from informed sources the opinion that the former Lord Lyon was thought to be averse to feudal baronies altogether, and am wondering if the new Lyon shares this alleged aversion.
    I cant see him being able to reverse the situation regarding arms for those purchasing Baronies. The ending of feudal tenure was a Scottish Government one so in away, I think, he has his hands tied behind his back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoldHighlander View Post
    I'm curious, how long does one hold the post of the Lord Lyon? Is it a "life time" appointment or something less?
    It's a lifetime appointment unless the holder chooses to retire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Daw View Post
    It's a lifetime appointment unless the holder chooses to retire.
    Thanks Steve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Daw View Post
    It's a lifetime appointment unless the holder chooses to retire.
    Lyon retires at 70 although I believe they can have a 2 year extension.
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    When does this torch passing take place

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    I'm pretty sure it happened when the queen appointed him.

    I'll be interested to see how things shake out just like Gilmore.

    But I'll bet that, at 67, he'll not be particularly liberal.
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    I learned something today, I had always thought this was a heriditary position handed down in the Lyon family. Thank You

    can you give me a note to give my wife, she says I never learn anything these days haha

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    OK, help me out here, fellow X-Markers! I have always wondered this, and it may seem like a silly question, but...is it pronounced Lord "Lion" or "Lee-own", or some other way?
    THANKS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipesndrumsnun View Post
    OK, help me out here, fellow X-Markers! I have always wondered this, and it may seem like a silly question, but...is it pronounced Lord "Lion" or "Lee-own", or some other way?
    THANKS!
    I always pronounce it as "li-on." But as I don't work for the BBC I could be wrong.
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