Battle of Bannockburn

[Jock Scot]

Jock,

You've just proved my point by using history as your example.

We shouldn't forget the past, we should learn from it.

T.

The trouble is that we SHOULD all learn from it,but if history is learnt from the back of a biscuit tin and perhaps well meant misinformation then you history teachers might as well talk to yourselves.I really don't mean to be rude,I do apologise, but a battle won does not mean that the war is won and lessons have been learned by the majority. I wish it were so, as you undoubtedly do. As you can see rose tinted history does not impress me one bit! Bannockburn was a Scots victory over the English,of that there is no doubt.There is also no doubt that it was no victory for Scotland in the short,medium and long term and the Scots were,largely betrayed by their own countrymen.I see little to celibrate today.

[Spc. Scott]

In the Year of our Lord 1314, patriots of Scotland - starving and outnumbered - charged the fields of Bannockburn. They fought like warrior poets; they fought like Scotsmen, and won their freedom.


Not an altogether historically accurate movie by any means, but a good one none-the-less.

And Happy birthday Cajunscot

[McFarkus]

My Scots ancestors killed 10 of my Sassenach ancestors at Bannockburn

[Freelancer]

My Scots ancestors killed 10 of my Sassenach ancestors at Bannockburn

...and this simple statement does the same!

[Jack Daw]

Many people assume that the Bannockburn Heritage Centre and the Memorial (Bruce Statue) are the location of the battle, which is not so. The Centre and Statue are the location of Bruce's encampment. The battle took place further east past the railroad tracks (Caledonian Railway). The point where the Scottish troops trapped the English Cavalry was at the confluence of the Pelstreamburn and the Bannockburn. You can visit the location, but it's a bit tricky because the A905-A91 roundabout is right above it and takes up a good bit of the real estate that was part of the battlesite.

One of the most recent finds (just a couple of years ago) in the archaelogical digs around there that I remember reading about was a pair of spurs.

I took this map with me to Scotland to find where the English were trapped:

http://www.scottishhistory.com/artic...aps/bburn2.jpg

[pdcorlis]

I really appreciate the intellectual honesty and respect shown during this discussion. History, like life is never simple - so thanks to all for your passion and your compassion!

[Coemgen]

Whatever the personal vendettas of their leaders may have been, many brave men on both sides fought and died that day for causes right and just. That alone should be reason enough to honour their memory, whatever our opinions of the results of their sacrifice are.

[highlander_Daz]

Appalingly in the 70s someone to turn the battlefield into a housing estate, the visitors centre is great, the huge round monument frames the battle field nicely