Thanks for all the advice guys. Is it possible to wear a SWK on the jeans waist though? I've had the thriftys and wore them on my navel waist which was great for going out on the town and all but not so good for plopping on the couch AND going out. I don't really like the look of most contemporaries and really prefer the traditional look, I just prefer the way a contemporary is supposed to be worn(on the hips more or less). I would consider a Sportkilt one of these days, but I've heard too many bad things about the quality of the fabric. All of this is way in the future anyways(damn tires!)but still I would appreciate any advice. Thanks all!