Danger in England!!!

**McFarkus** · 2nd October 10, 11:37 AM

Sounds like His Royal Highness should acquire a sgian don't.

**macshorty** · 6th October 10, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by McFarkus

Sounds like His Royal Highness should acquire a sgian don't.

HA HA!!

Well said. I am choosing to temper my comments so that I don't get banned. However, in this age of the Nanny state, this does not surprise me one bit.

**Vegan Scot** · 7th October 10, 12:48 AM

Oh man! The comments below that article! Arguing online is amazing.

Compared to the rest of the internets, XMTS is a bastion of civility! Actually, that's not even close to a fair comparison...

**Foxgun Tom** · 8th October 10, 03:05 AM

Oooops! sorry Lads and Lassies I double posted!

**Foxgun Tom** · 8th October 10, 03:12 AM

This whole issue is a nonsense! they're are numerous exemptions in law throughout the UK for carrying knive's, one is cultural ie: the wearing of a sgian dubh as part of national dress, religous ie: a member of th Sikh community carrying a karpa as a matter of religous observance and also another catagory of carrying a knife for good reason ie: a tradesman/journeyman or sportsman (fishing/hunting) who uses knive's in conjunction with work!

A short story to illustrate! I attented a game fair in England, a police officer objected to my fox-mask sporran and told me if anyone else found it offensive he would charge me with a criminal offence under Englands public order acts, He also intimated that my carrying of a Dirk and Sgean Dubh was also illegal under the aforementioned acts?

I pointed out the exemptions but! he was determined to carry on with his ludicrus actions, I had to supply my name and address, as that a legal requirement when asked for by the police here in the UK

I then asked the officer concerned for his personal details including full name, his senior officer on duty's name at the event and the name and contact details of his Chief Constable. I then told the officer in front of the assembled crowd that I found his behaviour deeply offensive and demeaning to me a a Scot for wearing my full national dress as I'm entitled to do anywhere in the UK

I also made it clear that I would seek legal advice, sue him personally, his superior officer on duty, the Chief Constable, and the local police board in respect of racial harrasment and discrimination!, his senior officer appeared took the constable aside to ask what the sitation was! as the story enfolded I saw the duty inspector;s face go from a dull ashen grey to marble white and then red with rage and embarrasment! He instructed his officer to apologise immediatley for any distress caused? he himself apologised on behalf of his force and the Chief Constable and would I accept and leave it at that? I replied no! I wanted a full written apology from the Chief Constable as a record that the incident happened, was recorded and an assurance under no circumstances would it happen again!

Guess what??recieved a full apolgy!!

Tom

**Lallans** · 8th October 10, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Foxgun Tom

This whole issue is a nonsense! they're are numerous exemptions in law throughout the UK for carrying knive's, one is cultural ie: the wearing of a sgian dubh as part of national dress, religous ie: a member of th Sikh community carrying a karpa as a matter of religous observance and also another catagory of carrying a knife for good reason ie: a tradesman/journeyman or sportsman (fishing/hunting) who uses knive's in conjunction with work!

A short story to illustrate! I attented a game fair in England, a police officer objected to my fox-mask sporran and told me if anyone else found it offensive he would charge me with a criminal offence under Englands public order acts, He also intimated that my carrying of a Dirk and Sgean Dubh was also illegal under the aforementioned acts?

I pointed out the exemptions but! he was determined to carry on with his ludicrus actions, I had to supply my name and address, as that a legal requirement when asked for by the police here in the UK

I then asked the officer concerned for his personal details including full name, his senior officer on duty's name at the event and the name and contact details of his Chief Constable. I then told the officer in front of the assembled crowd that I found his behaviour deeply offensive and demeaning to me a a Scot for wearing my full national dress as I'm entitled to do anywhere in the UK

I also made it clear that I would seek legal advice, sue him personally, his superior officer on duty, the Chief Constable, and the local police board in respect of racial harrasment and discrimination!, his senior officer appeared took the constable aside to ask what the sitation was! as the story enfolded I saw the duty inspector;s face go from a dull ashen grey to marble white and then red with rage and embarrasment! He instructed his officer to apologise immediatley for any distress caused? he himself apologised on behalf of his force and the Chief Constable and would I accept and leave it at that? I replied no! I wanted a full written apology from the Chief Constable as a record that the incident happened, was recorded and an assurance under no circumstances would it happen again!

Guess what??recieved a full apolgy!!

Tom

And this all happened at a game fair? I fear for the youth of Britain.

**Fit2BKilted** · 12th October 10, 07:29 PM

I would really appreciate seeing that written apology you recieved, Tom!

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 18th October 10, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Foxgun Tom

This whole issue is a nonsense! they're are numerous exemptions in law throughout the UK for carrying knive's, one is cultural ie: the wearing of a sgian dubh as part of national dress, religous ie: a member of th Sikh community carrying a karpa as a matter of religous observance and also another catagory of carrying a knife for good reason ie: a tradesman/journeyman or sportsman (fishing/hunting) who uses knive's in conjunction with work!

A short story to illustrate! I attented a game fair in England, a police officer objected to my fox-mask sporran and told me if anyone else found it offensive he would charge me with a criminal offence under Englands public order acts, He also intimated that my carrying of a Dirk and Sgean Dubh was also illegal under the aforementioned acts?

I pointed out the exemptions but! he was determined to carry on with his ludicrus actions, I had to supply my name and address, as that a legal requirement when asked for by the police here in the UK

I then asked the officer concerned for his personal details including full name, his senior officer on duty's name at the event and the name and contact details of his Chief Constable. I then told the officer in front of the assembled crowd that I found his behaviour deeply offensive and demeaning to me a a Scot for wearing my full national dress as I'm entitled to do anywhere in the UK

I also made it clear that I would seek legal advice, sue him personally, his superior officer on duty, the Chief Constable, and the local police board in respect of racial harrasment and discrimination!, his senior officer appeared took the constable aside to ask what the sitation was! as the story enfolded I saw the duty inspector;s face go from a dull ashen grey to marble white and then red with rage and embarrasment! He instructed his officer to apologise immediatley for any distress caused? he himself apologised on behalf of his force and the Chief Constable and would I accept and leave it at that? I replied no! I wanted a full written apology from the Chief Constable as a record that the incident happened, was recorded and an assurance under no circumstances would it happen again!

Guess what??recieved a full apolgy!!

Tom

Like I said above... reason # 73....

**kilted scholar** · 2nd October 10, 02:11 PM

The legal category is "British citizen" as per my passport renewed last March.
Since I do not intend to use a knife in combat I always wear a plastic dummy so as to avoid the remote possibility of harassment; then I can ask any over zealous law-enforcement officer who inquires about it to stab me with it if he wants and to take it to forensics for examination. : ) I have never had any problem, in any part of the UK.

**Lallans** · 8th October 10, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by kilted scholar

The legal category is "British citizen" as per my passport renewed last March.
Since I do not intend to use a knife in combat I always wear a plastic dummy so as to avoid the remote possibility of harassment; then I can ask any over zealous law-enforcement officer who inquires about it to stab me with it if he wants and to take it to forensics for examination. : ) I have never had any problem, in any part of the UK.

'Citizens' can carry a sgian dubh, 'subjects' cannot?