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    The Irish Government at the time (privately) viewed the bombings as an act of retaliation for having sent every fire engine and fire man from Dublin to the boarder to Belfast to fight the fires started by German air raids. My neighbor's father (Herr Klissmann) was attached to the German Embassy during the war, and he said that after the last bombing the representatives of the Irish government came right out and told the German ambassador that if one more bomb fell on Irish soil, it would mean a declaration of war. He added that the language used by the Irish representatives was anything but diplomatic, with the F-Bomb being dropped more than once. Hitler's government had never been broadly popular with the Irish, and with this incident opinion turned decidedly against the Germans.

    The face-saver was the public acceptance of an apology by Germany and the immediate offer of reparations, which offer was officially accepted by the Irish Government.

    The amazing thing-- to me at least-- were the number of teenagers I used to speak with in Dublin who had no knowledge of the Dublin bombings... ancient (and forgotten) history, I guess.

    In answer to Mike's question, during the war my family was busy fighting the Nazis, and the Japs (historically, if not politically, correct) and so nobody was home when Ireland was attacked and (I am happy to say) we lost neither property nor loved ones in the raids, our part of County Wicklow being well away from all of the excitement!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    The Irish Government at the time viewed the bombings as an act of retaliation for having sent every fire engine and fire man from Dublin to the boarder to Belfast to fight the fires started by German air raids. My neighbor's father (Herr Klissmann) was attached to the German Embassy during the war, and he said that the representative of the Irish government came right out and told the German ambassador that if one more bomb fell on Irish soil, it would mean a declaration of war. He added that the language used by the Irish representative was anything but diplomatic, with the F-Bomb being dropped more than once. Hitler's government had never been broadly popular with the Irish, and with this incident opinion turned decidedly against the Germans.

    The face-saver was the public acceptance of an apology by Germany and the immediate offer of reparations, which was officially accepted by the Irish Government.

    In answer to Mike's question, during the war my family was busy fighting the Nazis, and the Japs (historically, if not politically, correct) and so nobody was home when Ireland was attacked and (I am happy to say) we lost neither property nor loved ones in the raids, County Wicklow being well away from all of the excitement!.
    Rathdown's post reminds me of a scene in the well-done movie The Brylcreem Boys, about downed Allied and Axis flyers and sailors held in the K-Lines internment camp at the Curragh in the Republic. A Luftwaffe pilot and his RCAF counterpart are both (unknowingly) invited to tea by a local member of the gentry and his daughter. The housekeeper/cook refuses to have anything to do with the German, as her boy Frankie is serving with the 8th Army in North Africa. A little under 30,000 Irishmen and women from the Irish Free State served in the British Army during the War.

    If you haven't seen The Brylcreem Boys yet, I highly recommend it. Although it was filmed on the Isle of Mann (cheaper for the movie industry), the film does a spot on job in capturing the whole "Who are we neutral against?" spirit that was Ireland. Jean Butler of Riverdance fame stars, as well as Angus McFayden of Braveheart fame and Gabriel Byrne. No kilts, more's the pity, but the Irish Army uniforms are spot on.

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    Thank you for the tip on the movie, "The Brylcreem Boys."

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    I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about WWII, and I had never heard of these incidents.

    Thanks for the history lesson!
    "You'll find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." -Obi Wan Kenobi

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    Rathdown's post reminds me of a scene in the well-done movie The Brylcreem Boys, about downed Allied and Axis flyers and sailors held in the K-Lines internment camp at the Curragh in the Republic. A Luftwaffe pilot and his RCAF counterpart are both (unknowingly) invited to tea by a local member of the gentry and his daughter. The housekeeper/cook refuses to have anything to do with the German, as her boy Frankie is serving with the 8th Army in North Africa. A little under 30,000 Irishmen and women from the Irish Free State served in the British Army during the War.

    If you haven't seen The Brylcreem Boys yet, I highly recommend it. Although it was filmed on the Isle of Mann (cheaper for the movie industry), the film does a spot on job in capturing the whole "Who are we neutral against?" spirit that was Ireland. Jean Butler of Riverdance fame stars, as well as Angus McFayden of Braveheart fame and Gabriel Byrne. No kilts, more's the pity, but the Irish Army uniforms are spot on.

    T.
    Well Todd, you often cite being a teacher of history. The only academic award I ever won was my sophomore year in high school when I won an prize in Modern European History. I wrote my year long paper on Eamon de Valera, and as a consequence knew of the bombings.

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    I just added The Brylcreem Boys to my Netflix instant queue. Thanks for the recommendation.

    My father was a sergeant in the 1st Marine Division. He fought the Japs (he always used that "honorific") on Guadalcanal and helped build Henderson Field.
    I changed my signature. The old one was too ridiculous.

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