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    Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!

    Me likey...Me wanty...

    "Not available"

    Me sad...

    P.S. In my search for a cargo kilt online I found this...

    http://www.highlandkilt.com/GAIF%20-%20Guinness.JPG

    DRINK ME OR ELSE!

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    Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!

    First cargo style kilt that I've seen that I actually like. I wonder though, if a complementing solid cargo pocket might look good on a tartan cargo kilt.

    Rondo

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    Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!

    Quote Originally Posted by rondo View Post
    First cargo style kilt that I've seen that I actually like. I wonder though, if a complementing solid cargo pocket might look good on a tartan cargo kilt.

    Rondo
    I was thinking the same thing. Having some experience with pocketless trousers in historical re-enactment as well, I am well accustomed to pouches hung from belts and baldrics. The sporran is in itself one of these. If one would examine old military prints, there are many more in evidence with kilts. This all leads me to thinking more cargo capacity in plain pockets (possibly hung from the belt) for a tartan kilt would be easy on the eye.
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    Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!

    I agree, Jock, even at a quick glance it would be pretty had to confuse this with a traditional kilt.

    That said, though, I like it! If the traditional kilt were to evolve beyond mere tradition and start to gain attributes for functionality in the modern world, this kilt would likely be the result. It retains a strong sense of traditional styling and form, yet satisfies the need for large cargo pockets and modern belt-wearing trends.

    Is this kilt made to be worn at the actual waist, or lower down on the hips like a modern kilt? Judging by the length of the fell, I'm guessing the latter. That, too, would make it more of a modern style kilt, departing pretty drastically from tradition. But again, it's what most people would want in a modern evolution of the traditional kilt.

    All in all, I think it's great! While I mostly wear traditional kilts, I do like the functionality of my Utilikilt for hiking and working outside, and would love to own a 'cargo kilt' like this that would be a compromise between tradition and modern functionality.

    As for Robert of RKilts not wanting to make this again, I think he would change his mind if the money was good enough. The question is... does a market exist for this style? If so, how much would people be willing to pay for one like this?

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    Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!

    Jock, I take your point. Mistaken for a traditional Kilt in your neck of the woods definitely not ... And in most other places probably not.

    In retrospect that's not exactly what I meant and my post was badly phrased.

    I think Tobus has worded what I intended to convey better than I did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tobus View Post
    .... It retains a strong sense of traditional styling and form...
    Certainly a more traditional feel than these other RKilts products.


    Hemp


    Leather

    But you are right, it's not a traditional Kilt.

    Don't get me wrong, I have no aversion to modern Kilts, I like them and I've even got one in my collection. I just don't have the bottle to wear it much.
    Because:
    a) They come over as a young man's garment and I don't feel I fit that bill.
    b) They are so radically different to traditional kilts.
    c) My wife is not keen.

    I've seen a number of Utility type Kilts out and about on other folks and I think they look fine (on them).

    I think this tartan variant has mileage, in that it is a bridge between the two...

    I still think it's ace!

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    Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!

    Quote Originally Posted by English Bloke View Post
    Jock, I take your point. Mistaken for a traditional Kilt in your neck of the woods definitely not ... And in most other places probably not.

    In retrospect that's not exactly what I meant and my post was badly phrased.

    I think Tobus has worded what I intended to convey better than I did.



    Certainly a more traditional feel than these other RKilts products.


    Hemp


    Leather

    But you are right, it's not a traditional Kilt.

    Don't get me wrong, I have no aversion to modern Kilts, I like them and I've even got one in my collection. I just don't have the bottle to wear it much.
    Because:
    a) They come over as a young man's garment and I don't feel I fit that bill.
    b) They are so radically different to traditional kilts.
    c) My wife is not keen.

    I've seen a number of Utility type Kilts out and about on other folks and I think they look fine (on them).

    I think this tartan variant has mileage, in that it is a bridge between the two...

    I still think it's ace!
    JOHN:
    I saw the pics from your 50th and I am only a tad bid short of that, not sure I agree that the standard RKilts are a young man's product. And it I might say: "I am quite chuffed" with mine.

    I own 2 of Robert's hemp kilts, and while each may pick his poison, the pleats and the swish on them are terrific. So yes they are different than a traditional kilt, radically hmmh a subjective opinion. I know you are on the wrong side of the pond to make it easy but I think you have to experience one to get the full feel. The workmanship of these is top shelf and it is evident how much work Robert puts into them. Having said that I very much like my traditional kilts as well I am not rooted in one camp. But I do have dogs, run around in the parks and partake in weekend activities where RKilts are a great fit for their durability. The type of things that would worry my in a good wool kilt.
    I think Grant outlined thoughts that coincide with mine, above.

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    Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!

    No, no, I do not.
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    Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!

    I don't think it's my thing - of course, I'm still a traditionalist. I like the idea of hidden pockets, but not this variation. My first visual response was that it was a traditional kilt with some major damage.
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    Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!

    Also, PERSONALLY, I prefer slash pockets to cargo, on a kilt.
    If trying to make a kilt be functional but look as traditional as possible, I absolutely agree.

    But one thing about slash pockets is that anything you put in there will be lumpy. We're used to seeing it with trousers, where a billfold or set of keys or cell phone makes a lump in the pocket area. But on a kilt it would look just weird. And would totally mess up the clean lines of a kilt, IMHO. So while slash pockets would be somewhat useful, I think they have pretty big limitations on what you can actually use them for. If carrying more bulky items that will make a lump, an external pocket seems to be the lesser of the two evils. It won't mess up the fit or shape of the kilt itself.

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    Re: Contemporary Tartan Cargo... You know you want one!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tobus View Post
    If trying to make a kilt be functional but look as traditional as possible, I absolutely agree.

    But one thing about slash pockets is that anything you put in there will be lumpy. ....snip
    From my experience and I'm sure Steve of Freedom kilts would pipe in that slash pockets on a kilt doesn't show the contents the same way trousers do. The kilt flairs away from the leg whilst trousers of course cling. The slash pocket on the right side has the over apron covering it. You might notice the bulk when one sits down, but I really haven't noticed it much in the kilts I construct.
    I recognize your concern

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