"Jacobite" garb

**Erikm** · 8th September 11, 06:46 PM

Thank you

I have also heard that from others "about getting dirty " mine is knit a few friends from Na Fir Dileas sent me two or three of them.

Agree that is the next thing on my list is the custom Dirk.the one I am wearing is from John Barnett. Not bad but hate the scabbard!

Many thanks for the links, I should have seen them on barkertownsutlers I got most of my gear from her..

**Erikm** · 21st September 11, 10:11 PM

The John Barnett early Dirk would be nice with a new scabbard and blade.

**The Bear** · 9th October 11, 07:10 AM

When it comes to box pleted kilts can it be done well with 6 yards of medium weight or does it have to be heavy weight?

**Ryan Ross** · 9th October 11, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by The Bear

When it comes to box pleted kilts can it be done well with 6 yards of medium weight or does it have to be heavy weight?

It can be done to ok effect with four yards of medium weight material, though heavy weight is much better; unless you're quite large, 6 yards is more than you need for an early style (begining in the 1790's) box pleated kilt (6 yard box pleated would be a Victorian style).

...and remember that tailored kilts are not Jacobite period correct.

**The Bear** · 9th October 11, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by Ryan Ross

It can be done to ok effect with four yards of medium weight material, though heavy weight is much better; unless you're quite large, 6 yards is more than you need for an early style (begining in the 1790's) box pleated kilt (6 yard box pleated would be a Victorian style).

...and remember that tailored kilts are not Jacobite period correct.

I do have a bit of a belly! plus the "highland outfitters" in my area will not do 4-5 yard box pleated kilts for love nor money. They just refuse to do them. They will do 6 yards tho but only in heavy weight. Most highland outfiters in Scotland are stuck in the "it has to be 8-9 yards to be a proper kilt". Even when i explain in simple terms that im wanting an early kilt. Plus they say with medium weight it wont have the weight to give it a good swing. One even said it would be like a school girls skirt! bloody cheek.

**The Bear** · 9th October 11, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by The Bear

I do have a bit of a belly! plus the "highland outfitters" in my area will not do 4-5 yard box pleated kilts for love nor money. They just refuse to do them. They will do 6 yards tho but only in heavy weight. Most highland outfiters in Scotland are stuck in the "it has to be 8-9 yards to be a proper kilt". Even when i explain in simple terms that im wanting an early kilt. Plus they say with medium weight it wont have the weight to give it a good swing. One even said it would be like a school girls skirt! bloody cheek.

I should also point out that the outfit im going for is more of an 1790s-1800 outfit rather than a 1745 style.

**Ryan Ross** · 9th October 11, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by The Bear

I do have a bit of a belly! plus the "highland outfitters" in my area will not do 4-5 yard box pleated kilts for love nor money. They just refuse to do them. They will do 6 yards tho but only in heavy weight. Most highland outfiters in Scotland are stuck in the "it has to be 8-9 yards to be a proper kilt". Even when i explain in simple terms that im wanting an early kilt. Plus they say with medium weight it wont have the weight to give it a good swing. One even said it would be like a school girls skirt! bloody cheek.

Aye, I've heard the school girl skirt comment (mainly from Scots) before. Truth is, if I were you, I'd just have the thing made in the states and end up with what you actually want: four yards (I'd reccomend heavy weight, but 13 oz. will certainly get you by), non-overlapping box pleats. Matt Newsome, of the Scottish Tartans Museum and Newhouse Highland, makes the very finest, but there are several suppliers that can make a fine four yard kilt for you.

Originally Posted by The Bear

I should also point out that the outfit im going for is more of an 1790s-1800 outfit rather than a 1745 style.

Noted, good sir. Bare in mind, though, that for that specific period, unless you want to give a millitary impression, you'll probably want to have them pleat the kilt randomly, rather than to a stripe.