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20th January 06, 11:14 PM
#21
Originally Posted by Alan H
..... I have confidence that you will come to a good decision for yourself.
Well said, Alan...... I guess what it all boils down to is - if you want something badly enough, you'll go through what it takes to make it happen.
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20th January 06, 11:34 PM
#22
Originally Posted by Blu (Ontario)
Well said, Alan...... I guess what it all boils down to is - if you want something badly enough, you'll go through what it takes to make it happen.
Yup. In my case I wanted to wear a kilt....but what I REALLY WANTED, when I'm honest with myself, was
1. to feel a little bit different and special and unique
2. to even up a bit of the dynamic inside my relationship with my wife.
The kilts I wear have had a positive impact on both of those things.
As you pointed out, Blu, if you wear a kilt, people WILL notice you, and you will be a little bit different and special and unique. My standing my ground and sticking up for what I wanted to do....wear a kilt... has had more of a positive change in my life than the kilts themselves.
I think we need to remember that after all, it's just a piece of cloth. Pants are just pieces of cloth. We insist that we not be judged on the basis of our kilts alone, and yet we flaunt our MANLINESS because we wear kilts??? Some of us deride men who wear pants, because they're not as MANLY as us kilt wearing men? It doesn't wash.
In themselves, kilts, especially a contemporary kilts worn by someone with no strong connection to Scottish ancestry are not the be-all, end-all. They're just another garment. It's the mindset, the independence, the attitude and the ....well, sometimes it comes to this...the CONVICTION that you *will* do what you want and be what you want come hell or high water, that is the real benefit to strapping on a kilt.
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20th January 06, 11:42 PM
#23
I've been wearing kilts regularly for almost six years. In my neighborhood there is only one other regular kilt-wearing guy. At first, people looked at me strange. I got a few giggles, and an occassional rude comment.
Now, on the rare occassions when I'm in trousers, those same people seem dissappointed that I'm not wearing one of my kilts.
I work with EMTs, Firefighters, and Hazardous Materials Technicians -- some of the bravest people on the planet. It takes some kind of courage to rush into danger.
It takes another kind of courage to stand up for something you believe in.
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21st January 06, 01:12 AM
#24
My advice...just wear it and keep trucking man. The more you wear it, the more comfortable you will feel about it. Like Blu said, go about your business, I find ignoring ignorant people very easy to do. It is true that confidence goes along way. Dont give up!!!!
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21st January 06, 05:52 AM
#25
Originally Posted by Alan H
What's NOT so much fun is if you're running into this....
People are calling you "crossdresser" or epithets for "homosexual" to your face, in a nasty, menacing tone of voice.
I wish they would come right out and say it. I find confrontation very easy to deal with. One thing is for sure, they wouldn't say it again because I'm not the sort of guy who suffers fools gladly, and I can out-menace pretty much anyone - when I'm angry I won't back down from anyone and I've faced down people twice my size. The biggest part of the problem for me is not being sure that they're idiots. If they would just say what's on their minds we could sort out their problems.
When you go to the store, all the people unashamedly stare at you like you're a space alien, and dangerous...not one or two not-so-bright peoploe...ALL the people.
Hehe, I had that yesterday. I went into my local liquor store to buy some beer and the clerk started staring and whispering to her coworker, then she actually looked out the window to check what sort of car I was driving - as if that would clue her in on what was going on, LOL. I just smiled and acted as if nothing odd was happening, but I felt like the guy in the movie 'The Station Agent' when he goes to the grocery store.
When you go to a restaurant or a pub, they won't serve you. So you go to another one and they won't serve you there, either.
I haven't had that happen yet. If that happens, there will be pub/restaurant staff who will become acquainted with my temper, and they will surely regret it, LOL.
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21st January 06, 06:08 AM
#26
i'm one of those here who is definitely NOT a full time kilt wearer. Until recently, I wore only at festivals and such.For one thing, I only had a couple of kilts. Now I'm soon to be up to 8, only 5 of which I even consider wearing out in public. My suggestion, if you are interested in wearing your kilt, get a Tartan kilt from Stillwater kilts.The Standard model will run you from 70 to 80 dollars and the economy will be between 40 and 45 dollars. Many people who haven't been to Celtic events don't recognize the UK as a kilt. All they know about kilts is that they are tartaned garments worn by Scotsmen. Get people used to seeing you in a tartan kilt, then bring out the UK again. Then people will probably ask about the UK and you can explain that it is a modern kilt, but sttill a man's garment just like a tartan kilt.
"A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
Jerry, Kilted Old Fart.
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21st January 06, 07:10 AM
#27
If you're really having a problem with it, why don't you try easing into it a little slower. First, like it's been suggested, try getting an inexpensive tartan kilt like Stillwater. Then try going to a few Scottish/Irish/Celtic Festivals where others will also be kilted to build up your confidence in a friendly environment. Then start wearing it on special days, like St. Patrick's Day or National Tartan Day. All of these will help build up your confidence and get others used to seeing you kilted. Then just start wearing it on other days.
There will always be some people who look at you funny, and sometimes you may get some derogatory remarks. But the only way to get used to wearing the kilt is to wear it. I think everyone here will admit that wearing the kilt is doing something outside the societal norm, so you just have to accept that. The trick is to get comfortable being outside the norm.
We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb
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21st January 06, 07:32 AM
#28
Beery, everything you have mentioned to this point is coming from inside your head. Your perceptions of how people are perceiving you. Settle down, get out of your own head, carry yourself with confidence (doesn't mean staring anyone down) and get on with life... Shortly you will even forget you are wearing a kilt.
You think people stare at you like you are different...well if you want to wear a kilt you are different. Most of us are independent thinkers, non-conformists, intelligent if not well educated and for the most part, don't give a trouser about how others see us. I, and quite a few other members live in the southeast, the hotbed of American redneckism and we wear the kilt daily with few problems. In the past two years I have only experienced one truly negative encounter.
Since you are from Beantown, if all else fails tell them you are thinking of going to work as a frontman for DKM. :smile:
Mike
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21st January 06, 07:42 AM
#29
Originally Posted by Mike n NC
Beery, everything you have mentioned to this point is coming from inside your head.
I have to disagree with you there. My wife has noticed it, so it's not just me.
I, and quite a few other members live in the southeast, the hotbed of American redneckism and we wear the kilt daily with few problems.
I would not naturally assume that conservatives or rednecks would be less accepting of the kilt. Rednecks and conservatives often have a strong sense of their national heritage. Liberals and progressives often less so.
Last edited by Beery; 21st January 06 at 07:44 AM.
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21st January 06, 07:42 AM
#30
Please don't give up this below is very good advice, I have three tartan kilts and I have a lot of fun when I go out with one on !! Talk to people, say do you like the kilt, learn some history about the tartan (its name) your half way to making new freinds
KEEP GOING
Derek
Norfolk
England
Originally Posted by JerMc
i'm one of those here who is definitely NOT a full time kilt wearer. Until recently, I wore only at festivals and such.For one thing, I only had a couple of kilts. Now I'm soon to be up to 8, only 5 of which I even consider wearing out in public. My suggestion, if you are interested in wearing your kilt, get a Tartan kilt from Stillwater kilts.The Standard model will run you from 70 to 80 dollars and the economy will be between 40 and 45 dollars. Many people who haven't been to Celtic events don't recognize the UK as a kilt. All they know about kilts is that they are tartaned garments worn by Scotsmen. Get people used to seeing you in a tartan kilt, then bring out the UK again. Then people will probably ask about the UK and you can explain that it is a modern kilt, but sttill a man's garment just like a tartan kilt.
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