Ren Faire footwear

**Woodsheal** · 12th August 07, 05:03 AM

The closest thing to what the highlanders REALLY wore (in that period):

http://www.arrowmoc.com/pt.html

**Ayin McFye** · 13th August 07, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. MacDougall

My pleasure. When the Faire rolls around, we should coördinate a day to be there... I have a blast every year, and my former partners for going seem to have bailed on me for this year. We might even be able to set up a kilt day with the Sonoran Scotsmen.

Is it still buy 1 get 1 entry fee on opening weekend?

**ChromeScholar** · 13th August 07, 10:16 AM

As far as I know it is.

**Ayin McFye** · 13th August 07, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by ChromeScholar

As far as I know it is.

I don't think it would very difficult to get everyone together from the Sonoran Scotsmen to go to the Ren Faire and have pints and run amuck. Years ago we used to do this all the time, but I don't think we've gone in 2 years. I'll be at Estrella War in the beginning of February, and as long as it's not that weekend, i should be good to go. We can talk about it more though, as the time gets closer.

**ChromeScholar** · 13th August 07, 12:59 PM

Opening weekend for AZ Ren Festival is Feb 9th/10th. Estrella War runs Feb 12th-18th.

**MacWage** · 13th August 07, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Woodsheal

The closest thing to what the highlanders REALLY wore (in that period):

http://www.arrowmoc.com/pt.html

THAT's what I'd get!

Otherwise, the Smoke and Fire "Gillie Brogues" pattern works OK too. For the price (usually, about $6), it is workable.

**MacWage** · 14th August 07, 05:04 AM

Woodsheal and I exchanged some PMs on HISTORIC shoes. He referred me to these:
http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc...OES/SHOE57.HTM
http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc...OES/SHOE55.HTM
http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc...OES/SHOE56.HTM

Those also are similar to some illustrations in history books on the "dark age" Scotland (the term "dark age" refers more to OUR lack of knowledge -thanks to Vikings- about them than anything about the people of the 5th to 11th centuries -using the largest dating brackets).
He also pointed out that Scottish footwear didn't change much and the SAME shoe styles are described in the 6th century as in the 17th (and 18th)!

He also said that the Smoke and Fire "Gillie Brogues" look like NOTHING he has seen in Scottish finds.

So, if you want ACCURATE historic shoes/brogues, look at the ones "over-the-counter" in Woodsheal's post or the pattern above.

-By the way, our "Woodsheal" is VERY highly respected and authoritative figure in Jacobite/Highlander reenactment circles. His "opinion" usually has an ENORMOUS amount of research behind it. When in doubt or "don-know," I lean to following his opinion.

**Phil** · 14th August 07, 07:17 AM

I saw these on a site somebody posted here a few days ago. Here it is - http://www.caledoniancreations.com/B...sh-Brogues.htm.

I actually saw some very old shoes looking very similar in the National Museum in Scotland so they are pretty genuine for a re-enactment if that is important. Don't know if you'd want to be spending that kind of money though. There are a few leatherworkers here who could tackle them I'm sure.

**ChromeScholar** · 14th August 07, 07:37 AM

None of those links in your last post appear to be working, Macwage.

Also, here is a pattern for those pucker-toed shoes you posted.

pucker-toed shoes