Ren Faire footwear

**ChromeScholar** · 11th August 07, 06:26 PM

It's each Saturday and Sunday in February and March, plus President's Day. This year it starts on Feb 5th, I think.

BTW - Riverkilt, Red_Raven_Studios says she remembers you, too.

**James MacMillan** · 11th August 07, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by ChromeScholar

It's each Saturday and Sunday in February and March, plus President's Day. This year it starts on Feb 5th, I think.

BTW - Riverkilt, Red_Raven_Studios says she remembers you, too.

As the info becomes available - could you post it?

**Mr. MacDougall** · 11th August 07, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by James MacMillan

As the info becomes available - could you post it?

February 9-March 30, 2008

**ChromeScholar** · 13th August 07, 10:16 AM

As far as I know it is.

**Ayin McFye** · 13th August 07, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by ChromeScholar

As far as I know it is.

I don't think it would very difficult to get everyone together from the Sonoran Scotsmen to go to the Ren Faire and have pints and run amuck. Years ago we used to do this all the time, but I don't think we've gone in 2 years. I'll be at Estrella War in the beginning of February, and as long as it's not that weekend, i should be good to go. We can talk about it more though, as the time gets closer.

**ChromeScholar** · 13th August 07, 12:59 PM

Opening weekend for AZ Ren Festival is Feb 9th/10th. Estrella War runs Feb 12th-18th.

**MacWage** · 14th August 07, 05:04 AM

Woodsheal and I exchanged some PMs on HISTORIC shoes. He referred me to these:
http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc...OES/SHOE57.HTM
http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc...OES/SHOE55.HTM
http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc...OES/SHOE56.HTM

Those also are similar to some illustrations in history books on the "dark age" Scotland (the term "dark age" refers more to OUR lack of knowledge -thanks to Vikings- about them than anything about the people of the 5th to 11th centuries -using the largest dating brackets).
He also pointed out that Scottish footwear didn't change much and the SAME shoe styles are described in the 6th century as in the 17th (and 18th)!

He also said that the Smoke and Fire "Gillie Brogues" look like NOTHING he has seen in Scottish finds.

So, if you want ACCURATE historic shoes/brogues, look at the ones "over-the-counter" in Woodsheal's post or the pattern above.

-By the way, our "Woodsheal" is VERY highly respected and authoritative figure in Jacobite/Highlander reenactment circles. His "opinion" usually has an ENORMOUS amount of research behind it. When in doubt or "don-know," I lean to following his opinion.

**Phil** · 14th August 07, 07:17 AM

I saw these on a site somebody posted here a few days ago. Here it is - http://www.caledoniancreations.com/B...sh-Brogues.htm.

I actually saw some very old shoes looking very similar in the National Museum in Scotland so they are pretty genuine for a re-enactment if that is important. Don't know if you'd want to be spending that kind of money though. There are a few leatherworkers here who could tackle them I'm sure.

**MacWage** · 14th August 07, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by Phil

I saw these on a site somebody posted here a few days ago. Here it is - http://www.caledoniancreations.com/B...sh-Brogues.htm.

I actually saw some very old shoes looking very similar in the National Museum in Scotland so they are pretty genuine for a re-enactment if that is important. Don't know if you'd want to be spending that kind of money though. There are a few leatherworkers here who could tackle them I'm sure.

Those look rather similar to the Smoke and Fire ones. ONLY, better (esp. on the ankle portion).

I never would cite myself as a "shoe" expert, but lean HEAVILY on others, esp. Brian, in areas I don't know well.

**Phil** · 14th August 07, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by MacWage

Those look rather similar to the Smoke and Fire ones. ONLY, better (esp. on the ankle portion).

I never would cite myself as a "shoe" expert, but lean HEAVILY on others, esp. Brian, in areas I don't know well.

I am certainly not an expert, all I have to go on is a couple of old shoes in the museum. I don't have a picture, sorry, but they were simple leather ones like on the site and looked to lace a bit like gillie brogues on the top of the foot. They certainly weren't anything fancy with buckles or anything like that.