Massacre of Glencoe

[David Dalglish]

I have camped many times at Glencoe, its a beautiful place.

[Phil]

I think it is mostly due to the Campbells doing a lot of the Government's dirty work for them. Have you ever read about their exploits on Rathlin Island? Mind you I think that was more of a personal one.

[Barry]

I have camped many times at Glencoe, its a beautiful place.

It is that. The time I camped there on the edge of a loch the nights were so cold my butane bottles froze. This is where I had my first real taste of Haggis.

[Jock Scot]

It is that. The time I camped there on the edge of a loch the nights were so cold my butane bottles froze. This is where I had my first real taste of Haggis.

Better,by far,the cold than the "dreaded midge".

[Graywolf]

As a Campbell, a Graham, a Cummings and a Mcleod, and lord knows whatever other clans, let me say this. The clans operated as tribes. The closest analogy I can think of today is the tribes in Iraq or maybe Africa, e.g, Watusi and Hutu, or Somali warlords. They made and broke alliances at their convenience. The MacDonalds for a time were allied with the English, (heaven forbid), then the Scottish throne. The Campbells likewise.

The main break came with the religious wars - the Campbells declared early for Presbyterianism and the other highland clans stayed mostly Roman Catholic or what we would call Episcopalian, i.e., Anglican. If you want people to kill each other - raise religion as the issue. Example - just look to nothern Ireland, just recently solved, or Iraq, Sunni and Shia.

I take no pride in the massacre as a Campbell, neither do I feel guilty. It was done, principally to eliminate a small clan which could serve as an example to the larger clans who might oppose William.

[Jock Scot]

Hello Greywolf,let me say right from the start that I am no expert on religeous matters(mods please bear with me),but in the interests of peace can I make it very plain that Roman Catholics and Anglicans are not the same thing.Very far from it in fact! Where the Episcopalians fit in, I have no Idea.Peace to all.

[macwilkin]

Hello Greywolf,let me say right from the start that I am no expert on religeous matters(mods please bear with me),but in the interests of peace can I make it very plain that Roman Catholics and Anglicans are not the same thing.Very far from it in fact! Where the Episcopalians fit in, I have no Idea.Peace to all.

Episcopalians and Anglicans are the same thing, Jock. The Scottish Episcopal Church is part of the Anglican Communion. To keep this on topic, many Highlanders were "piskies".

T.

[Pleater]

I know, but seldom sing 'The fall of the house of Airlie' which contains the lines

'You may tell it to Sir John,' he said
'You may tell it to Lord Airlie
That just one kiss from his sweet lady gay
Would have saved all the plundering of Airlie.'

'If the great Sir John had been but at home
For he is this night with Prince Charlie
Then neither you, nor any Campbell's son
Would have dared to come a plundering of Airlie.

The Campbell's son was an Argyll.

[Jock Scot]

Episcopalians and Anglicans are the same thing, Jock. The Scottish Episcopal Church is part of the Anglican Communion. To keep this on topic, many Highlanders were "piskies".

T.

Thanks T. for that information.I know full well that I am "on thin ice" here and I apologise in advance,but in the interests of peace and understanding it is important for people to know and to understand,Greywolf for example, that RC's and the various representitives of the Anglican Communion are not one and the same.The perpetuation of misunderstandings have blighted this world for too long and I hope that we can gently point out a misconception.As I say," peace to all".

[Phil]

Thanks T. for that information.I know full well that I am "on thin ice" here and I apologise in advance,but in the interests of peace and understanding it is important for people know and to understand,Greywolf for example, that RC's and the various representitives of the Anglican Communion are not one and the same.The perpetuation of misunderstandings have blighted this world for too long and I hope that we can gently point out a misconception.As I say," peace to all".

Jock, Episcopacy is the governance of a church by bishops and so can apply to both the RC church and CofE equally. Presbyterianism was founded on a rejection of epicopacy and is governed by elders. I too trust this does not overstep any marks.