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 Originally Posted by Yaish
Never got into it, but it looks like a lot of fun. Those are some of my favorite 'pieces', even the modern replicas.
I'm sure there were a ton of Scots back in the day, taking part in the 'real deal' but I doubt any were kilted. Anyone have any information about old time kilted cowboys?
It's an interesting question, to be sure. Szaz's Scots in the North American West discusses the many Scottish influences on the American and Canadian frontiers. The Canadian band Cowboy Celtic has even recorded the only known Cowboy song in Gaelic, "Farewell to Coigach", written by one Murdo George MacLean around the turn of the century.
No doubt there were kilts in the American West, given Szaz's documentation of Burns Clubs, Caledonian Societies, etc. How common they were is another story. But, if Brian Keith can wear one as a wealthy cattleman in The Rare Breed... 
T.
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 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Off topic, but I suppose as relevant as some of the SCA threads... Any Xmarkers into CAS?
have been with CAS for about 5 years, great fun, nice people, during the summer months i attend in a kilt. be careful with this subject, xmarks takes a dim view of this sport.
semper fi
slick
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 Originally Posted by mcvarmit
... be careful with this subject, xmarks takes a dim view of this sport.
Actually the owner and staff here at XMTS have nothing against Cowboy Action Shooters or other sportsmen. We do have issues with threads that turn into nasty heated flame wars regarding 2nd amendment rights or otherwise become unsuitable for family viewing. That is why we have rules regarding weapon threads and pictures.
The Mod Squad are watching and discussing this thread. It certainly is off topic for a kilt forum, but perhaps people could keep it about the sport, the dress, the groups, and not get terribly hung up on the hardware to keep things pleasant while we try to decide what is right and fair.
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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 Originally Posted by Panache
...perhaps people could keep it about the sport, the dress, the groups, and not get terribly hung up on the hardware to keep things pleasant while we try to decide what is right and fair.
I suggest that those wishing to talk about shooting irons could continue to do so by PM and leave the thread to focus on the sport, groups, and dress as previously requested.
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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I know that there were kilts in early Arizona, I have seen kilted gents standing in front of ranch houses and civic buildings in old pictures when I was looking through some old tin types at a swap meet in Tempe.
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 Originally Posted by James MacMillan
I know that there were kilts in early Arizona, I have seen kilted gents standing in front of ranch houses and civic buildings in old pictures when I was looking through some old tin types at a swap meet in Tempe.
There are two great photos of Western Scots in Jim Hewitson's Tam Blake & Co., one of the Caledonian Society of Cavalier County, North Dakota, c. 1896, and one of the Caledonian Society of Portland, Oregon -- in the former, several gents in the front row are wearing kilts with trousers underneath! 
T.
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I do the action shooting part, just not in competition. One of the groups I perform with regularly is called "The Gunfighters" (stick a .com on that to see 'em). Everything the group wears and carries has to be authentic 1880s, so we get a lot of our gear from the same places the SASS groups do (I carry a modern version of a Colt SAA). All the shows are built around well paced comedy with a gunfight thrown in at the end. The odd thing is that the result of rehearsals plus 100s of shows is that we usually can do better than the local SASS groups do in actual quick draw shootouts.
[SIZE="2"][B]From the Heart of Midlothian...Texas, that is![/B][/SIZE]
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C.P.Rogerson
Kwajalein Atoll, Republic Marshall Islands
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After many years at it, I've kind of burned out on the traditional "reenactment" thing, especially all of the prep, loading, travel, set-up, etc.
So, I've been toying with the idea of selling all my reenactment gear and joining the local CAS outfit. I don't care about being an accurate and fast pistoleer. But, I'd shoot for fun, and really get into assembling an accurate western impression - I'm thinking a ca. 1870 ex-soldier turned bounty hunter, or some such....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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Okay... the local CAS group made contact a few hours ago and I've been invited to their local rendezvous on Saturday. I'll turn up for an hour or so and see how it pans out (visiting in-laws are arriving on Friday or I'd try to get away for the day). My interest in all of this stems from the Scottish side of my family. During the US Civil War my g-g-grandfather owned coal mines in Pennsylvania (and in Scotland). After the war he went into the Montana Territory to look for coal to supply the rail roads. While developing mines in the Montana Territory his son's (my g-grandfather) wife gave birth to my grandfather. Anyhow I've photos and a painting of my g-grandfather "cowboying" in the 1880's up until his death in the 1930s.
Although I've a few photos of kilted folks from this period, none of them were taken in the USA so presumably they left their kilts back home. I don't know if Red Lodge Montana sported any Burns Clubs or Caledonian Societies, but my various grandfathers did belong to the local Masonic lodge as well as being active in Odd Fellows. The IOOF fell by the wayside, but not the Craft. My son is (at least) a 5th generation Freemason, having joined Lodge 44 in Edinburgh when in his early twenties.
Last edited by MacMillan of Rathdown; 6th May 08 at 03:14 PM.
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