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16th October 09, 08:40 AM
#1
P.S. - Jamie;
I'd go without a woolen bonnet, as reading indicates none were wore by the Scots then, unless you wear a battle helmut in its place.
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16th October 09, 11:02 AM
#2
Well considering I still can't tie a bow tie, you have nothing but my respect for your persistence. Can't wait for the pics. (His and hers.)
Best regards,
Jake
[B]Less talk, more monkey![/B]
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16th October 09, 12:00 PM
#3
Um....nobody REALLY knows how Scots "back then" wore a great kilt. I mean there aren't instructions written down on how to do it, from 1600. If you can figure out a way to get the thing on that wraps the stuff around you, with some folds in the back and so on, I figure you're good to go.
Look at it this way... Shakespeare lived from 1564 - 1616. MacBeth was supposedly written around 1605. Seeing as the first references to anything kilt-like aren't more than a decade older than that, seeing as the first illustration of anything kilt-like (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...hus,_1631.jpeg) dates from fifteen years after Shakespeare died...seeing as that illustration shows tartan fabric worn a number of different ways, and different lengths and actually to my eye seems to show a mercenary in tartan breeches.....and seeing as Shakespeare probably didn't know any of this, anyway.... and seeing as that's a modern tartan you've got on, not an ancient one... and seeing as nobody REALLY KNOWS (as is pointed out to us, often, in this forum).
...I'd say to just wrap it around you in whatever manner seems good, and GO. I think you look good.
AND BESIDES....if we're going to raise a fuss over the Great Kilt and the precise manner in which it is worn, how about those shoes, eh? 'taint no such historical thing as those shoes, though they look good. In the 1600's most Highland Scots either went barefoot or wore simple turnshoes. If you had the money, you got latchet shoes.
http://www.freewebs.com/spun_measure...ows/shoes.html
There aren't really anything quite like the usual "ghillies" that we wear at Faire in the historical record for the 14th - 16th centuries, though apparently there are some things from earlier than that.
Anyway, like what's the point of fussing? It's a halloween costume and you look great. Go have fun.
Last edited by Alan H; 16th October 09 at 12:17 PM.
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16th October 09, 12:32 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by Alan H
Look at it this way... Shakespeare lived from 1564 - 1616. MacBeth was supposedly written around 1605.
... and Macbeth was a historical figure, who died in 1057. Not that I'd ever go all pedantic on you, Alan, but that was the anachronism to which I alluded.
We are in agreement: It's Hallowe'en. Have fun.
Ken Sallenger - apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,
gainfully unemployed systems programmer
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16th October 09, 01:23 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by fluter
... and Macbeth was a historical figure, who died in 1057. Not that I'd ever go all pedantic on you, Alan,  but that was the anachronism to which I alluded.
We are in agreement: It's Hallowe'en. Have fun.
What fluter said!!! LOL
Panache, you look great. I'm sure you two will arrange for the Lady to have a spot to rub. Carry on!
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16th October 09, 01:50 PM
#6
I tried to convince Jamie to go with this look for his MacBeth gig (tunic, trews, tartan mantle), but he just HAS to have bare knees!
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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16th October 09, 01:55 PM
#7
I believe Jamie intends to employ artistic license.
Regards,
Rex.
At any moment you must be prepared to give up who you are today for who you could become tomorrow.
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16th October 09, 02:02 PM
#8
Jamie,
If you are trying the "pleat it on the floor" method, there is no reason for the aprons to hang that low. Lay down with the bottom edge of the pleats at the height that you want then wrap the aprons around and belt in place. The aprons should be at the same height as the back just like in a modern kilt. It is very helpful to preposition your belt under the kilt before you lay down.
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16th October 09, 02:23 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by Rex_Tremende
In that case, more pancake is in order:
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16th October 09, 02:01 PM
#10
Brian, I got in trouble for sitting like that in church.
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