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17th February 10, 03:48 PM
#21
 Originally Posted by MacBean
No chance! The Philadelphia St.Andrews society, one of the oldest in the country, has private affairs for members only, and you can only become a member by being invited by another member (but there is no way of knowing who is a member...). I've written the chap on their contact sheet, and he keeps promising to get back to me...but no luck yet.
Wow - do they have a secret handshake too?
That doesn't seem like a very open or friendly way to promote Scottish culture. If that is indeed their goal... which may or may not be the case.
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17th February 10, 04:11 PM
#22
 Originally Posted by MacBean
No chance! The Philadelphia St.Andrews society, one of the oldest in the country, has private affairs for members only, and you can only become a member by being invited by another member (but there is no way of knowing who is a member...). I've written the chap on their contact sheet, and he keeps promising to get back to me...but no luck yet.
"I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members." - Groucho Marx
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17th February 10, 07:58 PM
#23
 Originally Posted by Tobus
Wow - do they have a secret handshake too?
That doesn't seem like a very open or friendly way to promote Scottish culture. If that is indeed their goal... which may or may not be the case.
You have to remember, though, what the original purpose of a St. Andrew's Society was -- not to promote Scottish culture to non-Scots, but to serve as a mutual aid society for Scots immigrants on a distant shore. Whilst they certainly did celebrate Scots culture, it came as a secondary mission to relieving the distressed on a foreign shore. Obviously given that mission, some safeguards had to be taken, or else funds and contacts might have been abused by those with less than honest intentions, just as others aped the secret handshakes, passwords, etc. of fraternal organisations.
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18th February 10, 07:19 AM
#24
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
If I remember correctly, Tartan Day originated in Canada, and then spread to the United States.
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This is taken from the Wikipedia entry for Tartan Day:
"In 1982, under the auspices of the New York Caledonian Club, New York State Governor Hugh Carey, and New York City Mayor Ed Koch declared July 1, 1982, as Tartan Day, a one-off celebration of the 200th anniversary of the repeal of the Act of Proscription of August 12, 1747, the law forbidding Scots to wear tartan.
"On March 9, 1986, a 'Tartan Day' to promote Scottish heritage in Canada, was proposed at a meeting of the Federation of Scottish Clans in Nova Scotia.[1] Jean Watson, President of Clan Lamont, petitioned provincial legislatures to recognize April 6 as Tartan Day.[1] The first such proclamation was by Nova Scotia in April 1987; other provinces followed suit until Québec was the last to fall in line, in December 2003.[1] The day has not yet recognized by the federal government.
"In Australia, wearing tartan on July 1 has been encouraged since 1989. The day has been promoted as International Tartan Day in Australia since 1996[2] and has been formally recognized by many states, but not yet at national level. The United States Senate recognized April 6 as Tartan Day in 1998."
- And to correct my earlier spelling error, the April 6 Tartan Day commemorates the Declaration of Arbroath, a major milestone in human liberty.
Last edited by Lallans; 18th February 10 at 08:53 AM.
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18th February 10, 01:01 PM
#25
 Originally Posted by Canuck of NI
This is taken from the Wikipedia entry for Tartan Day:
"In 1982, under the auspices of the New York Caledonian Club, New York State Governor Hugh Carey, and New York City Mayor Ed Koch declared July 1, 1982, as Tartan Day, a one-off celebration of the 200th anniversary of the repeal of the Act of Proscription of August 12, 1747, the law forbidding Scots to wear tartan.
"On March 9, 1986, a 'Tartan Day' to promote Scottish heritage in Canada, was proposed at a meeting of the Federation of Scottish Clans in Nova Scotia.[1] Jean Watson, President of Clan Lamont, petitioned provincial legislatures to recognize April 6 as Tartan Day.[1] The first such proclamation was by Nova Scotia in April 1987; other provinces followed suit until Québec was the last to fall in line, in December 2003.[1] The day has not yet recognized by the federal government.
"In Australia, wearing tartan on July 1 has been encouraged since 1989. The day has been promoted as International Tartan Day in Australia since 1996[2] and has been formally recognized by many states, but not yet at national level. The United States Senate recognized April 6 as Tartan Day in 1998."
- And to correct my earlier spelling error, the April 6 Tartan Day commemorates the Declaration of Arbroath, a major milestone in human liberty.
I'll spare the lecture I give my students on the pitfalls of Wikipedia. 
http://www.tartanday.org/history.htm
http://www.nycaledonian.org/history.php
I stand corrected about the American origins of Tartan Day -- I wasn't aware of the NY Caledonian Club's efforts back in the early 1980s.
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Last edited by macwilkin; 18th February 10 at 04:26 PM.
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