Clan Crest on a Kilt---Where?

[cessna152towser]

I'd be inclined to agree with what others have said, I never accessorise a modern kilt with clan regalia. Though as has been suggested you could attach it to the Utilikilt pocket if you really don't want to wear it on a blazer or on a traditional tartan kilt.

[Jock Scot]

I may be an old traditional Scot, but for the life of me I don't understand your thought processes on this. However, I do fully accept that you are quite entitled to do as you please.

The modern kilt(some would say it is not a kilt) that you are wearing is not supposed, as I understand it, to have any connection to the Scottish kilt. Why then, put a Clan badge on it to give it a Scots connection? Why not get a kilt in the appropriate tartan if you want to signify your Scots connections and put that badge on a blazer where it belongs?

[English Bloke]

I hear what you're saying Jock but having worn a traditional kilt in a very (very) hot place I can understand the attraction of a light weight cotton-canvas kilt on purely practical grounds. I don't wear one meeself, I have one as part of my collection and I occasionally wear it inside the mansion but I haven't yet ventured out of doors in it and doubt I ever will.

That said I can also appreciate that those with a Scottish connection may still wish to advertise the fact by means of a badge. This seems to fit the purpose adequately. Don't get me wrong. Utility Kilts are not Scottish Kilts but are, all the same, often worn by people with a sense of Scottishness in them.

[macwilkin]

I hear what you're saying Jock but having worn a traditional kilt in a very (very) hot place I can understand the attraction of a light weight cotton-canvas kilt on purely practical grounds. I don't wear one meeself, I have one as part of my collection and I occasionally wear it inside the mansion but I haven't yet ventured out of doors in it and doubt I ever will.

That said I can also appreciate that those with a Scottish connection may still wish to advertise the fact by means of a badge. This seems to fit the purpose adequately. Don't get me wrong. Utility Kilts are not Scottish Kilts but are, all the same, often worn by people with a sense of Scottishness in them.

Point taken, but respectfully -- I think the issue I have, as a traditionalist, is that a bullion wire badge is traditionally worn on a blazer/club jacket. You do see some folks in the North America that wear them on day wear jackets with their kilt, but to me, it almost seems a bit much -- a blazer badge really belongs on a blazer. I would think an embroidered patch of the clan badge would look better on a modern kilt.

But again, this is just my opinion only. I can't speak for others.

T.

[BraveheartedO-fWolf]

I hear what you're saying Jock but having worn a traditional kilt in a very (very) hot place I can understand the attraction of a light weight cotton-canvas kilt on purely practical grounds. I don't wear one meeself, I have one as part of my collection and I occasionally wear it inside the mansion but I haven't yet ventured out of doors in it and doubt I ever will.

That said I can also appreciate that those with a Scottish connection may still wish to advertise the fact by means of a badge. This seems to fit the purpose adequately. Don't get me wrong. Utility Kilts are not Scottish Kilts but are, all the same, often worn by people with a sense of Scottishness in them.

Therein lies my reasoning. I want to show my heritage while wearing a kilt that I feel comfortable in. I am very proud of my heritage and mean no disrepect.

[zirrow]

but I wanted to go all out, as if I were one of the painted hooligans attending a college sporting event

In all seriousness, I had thought about using a cap badge when not in tartan, but I hadn't really seen this done and thought this might be a huge faux pas. Also, it seems like it could be a bit much due to its size. I have not come across a lapel pin, but that might fit the bill quite nicely. To avoid the "walking billboard" syndrome while in tartan, I did a bit of searching last week and found a simple holly brooch to use for a kilt pin on my clan tartan once it comes in (hopefully before the end of the year). Holly is the plant badge of the clan associated with my name (if only the clansmen of auld had foreseen what we would do to the holly come the holidays, it would have been a much easier search). Beyond that, it seems to me that the only other place that could have a symbol displayed would be a cap badge, if one were wearing an appropriate headpiece. As for the rest, I have to agree that shoes, socks, belts, and the like have no business displaying every little symbol that strikes your fancy (simple patterns can be okay), unless the situation deems it appropriate, as in the aforementioned college sporting event.

and thank you, your insight in this issue has been very helpful. I don't always see eye-to-eye with your views, but I find many of your posts to be quite informative and enjoy reading them.

[macwilkin]

but I wanted to go all out, as if I were one of the painted hooligans attending a college sporting event

In all seriousness, I had thought about using a cap badge when not in tartan, but I hadn't really seen this done and thought this might be a huge faux pas. Also, it seems like it could be a bit much due to its size. I have not come across a lapel pin, but that might fit the bill quite nicely. To avoid the "walking billboard" syndrome while in tartan, I did a bit of searching last week and found a simple holly brooch to use for a kilt pin on my clan tartan once it comes in (hopefully before the end of the year). Holly is the plant badge of the clan associated with my name (if only the clansmen of auld had foreseen what we would do to the holly come the holidays, it would have been a much easier search). Beyond that, it seems to me that the only other place that could have a symbol displayed would be a cap badge, if one were wearing an appropriate headpiece. As for the rest, I have to agree that shoes, socks, belts, and the like have no business displaying every little symbol that strikes your fancy (simple patterns can be okay), unless the situation deems it appropriate, as in the aforementioned college sporting event.

and thank you, your insight in this issue has been very helpful. I don't always see eye-to-eye with your views, but I find many of your posts to be quite informative and enjoy reading them.

You're most welcome, and I think your idea regarding the plant badge is a good one.



T.