Kilt and necktie in matching tartan?

**WolfmanJack** · 29th December 11, 06:36 PM

What does the rabble think of Andy Stewart's kit here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCSB_BiNSZo

**Jock Scot** · 30th December 11, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by WolfmanJack

What does the rabble think of Andy Stewart's kit here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCSB_BiNSZo

A perfect example of what makes many a Scot cringe. The damage that TV and music hall Scots "personalities" have done to the Scots image will haunt Scotland for many years still to come.

**figheadair** · 30th December 11, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

A perfect example of what makes many a Scot cringe. The damage that TV and music hall Scots "personalities" have done to the Scots image will haunt Scotland for many years still to come.

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**thescot** · 30th December 11, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

A perfect example of what makes many a Scot cringe. The damage that TV and music hall Scots "personalities" have done to the Scots image will haunt Scotland for many years still to come.

Jock, my friend, after viewing that video, I, too, will be haunted for many years to come!

I guess the singing was fine, but I couldn't get past the fact that his mother dresses him so funny! The tie! . . . The hose! . . . Oh, the humanity!

The same could be said for southerners: if a person has a sounther accent in a movie, he's either crooked or stupid. Kind of the way men seem to be pressented in almost all modern TV programs.

Oh, well. let's just watch that tartan tie thing!

**Panache** · 30th December 11, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Tobus

The thing about wearing tartan neckties with a tartan kilt is that even if they're the same tartan, the sett size is usually different (as ties will generally use a smaller sett so you can actually see the repeat). This makes it look strange to me, as if they go together, but only by accident.

Originally Posted by WolfmanJack

What does the rabble think of Andy Stewart's kit here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCSB_BiNSZo

His outfit is...err...one that I would not choose to wear myself

However he does provide a good example of why a tartan tie running straight into the tartan kilt isn't terribly flattering. To me it looks odd with different the sett sizes (as Tobus mentioned) running straight into each other. A muddled sort of look where neither the kilt nor the tie has any distinction from the other yet they don't blend together. A waistcoat would have helped his outfit. Actually his outfit needed quite a bit of help, but a waistcoat would have been a good start!

Cheers

Jamie

**HenryT** · 31st December 11, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by WolfmanJack

What does the rabble think of Andy Stewart's kit here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCSB_BiNSZo

As far as Andy Stewart's rendition of the tune is concerned, I would quote Col. Jock Sinclair, "Yon's a cheesy tune; you'll no play that."

Henry

**McClef** · 31st December 11, 05:08 PM

Somehow Mr Cumming manages to carry it off IMHO

He is very much an individualist and that is not always to the bad.

He even wore two sporrans whilst highland dancing in a version of Nicholas Nickleby and got away with it!

**SlackerDrummer** · 4th January 12, 03:36 PM

As to the the tartan necktie with a kilt, there are those with bona fides who don't and there are those with bona fides who do. There is no "right" or "wrong"; the choice is yours.

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**Jock Scot** · 30th December 11, 07:36 AM

I actually think that Andy Stewart and a few others are partly responsible for the kilt not being worn more often during the day. NO, I repeat, NO kilt wearing Scot ever dressed like that for day wear before the TV cottoned on to it and the likes of A.S. bastardised it!

Would the traditional day kilt wearer, before TV, normally wear the shoes that AS is: no!

Would " " " " " " " " hose " " :no!

Would " " " " " " sporran " :no!

Would " " " " " tartan " :no!

Would " " " " " " tartan tie " :no!

Would " " " " buttons on the day Jacket " :no!

Would " " " " " Colour of jacket " : no!

Would " " " " " white shirt to sing " " :no!

The problem is, having been led astray, the rest of the world, including many Scots, now think that this style of day attire and even more unsuitable variations, is what they should model themselves on . It must be so, they think, it is seen that way on TV, film, CD and video.

It does, I am afraid, make me a tad irritated.

**FreakPower70** · 22nd February 12, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

I actually think that Andy Stewart and a few others are partly responsible for the kilt not being worn more often during the day. NO, I repeat, NO kilt wearing Scot ever dressed like that for day wear before the TV cottoned on to it and the likes of A.S. bastardised it!

Would the traditional day kilt wearer, before TV, normally wear the shoes that AS is: no!

Would " " " " " " " " hose " " :no!

Would " " " " " " sporran " :no!

Would " " " " " tartan " :no!

Would " " " " " " tartan tie " :no!

Would " " " " buttons on the day Jacket " :no!

Would " " " " " Colour of jacket " : no!

Would " " " " " white shirt to sing " " :no!

The problem is, having been led astray, the rest of the world, including many Scots, now think that this style of day attire and even more unsuitable variations, is what they should model themselves on . It must be so, they think, it is seen that way on TV, film, CD and video.

It does, I am afraid, make me a tad irritated.

I get everything but the jacket color and the white shirt. Could you explain why these things don't work?