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4th November 14, 09:14 PM
#21
To clarify, thank you for all the encouragement, but I'm more concerned about the 'You're wearing a skirt?' crowd than the Tartan Police. I've run into very few people who even know the word tartan, I'm more just getting used to the general public looking at me and integrating it in situations where it'll be best received.
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5th November 14, 02:17 AM
#22
 Originally Posted by Highwayman
To clarify, thank you for all the encouragement, but I'm more concerned about the 'You're wearing a skirt?' crowd than the Tartan Police. I've run into very few people who even know the word tartan, I'm more just getting used to the general public looking at me and integrating it in situations where it'll be best received.
If they want to call it a skirt then let them call it a skirt. The only people who have called my kilt a "skirt" were people conversing with me in a language other than English so the word "kilt" was a new foreign word to them1. A native English language speaker calling it a skirt is either woefully ignorant2 or looking for a fight. You've surely dealt with these types before, no? Lots of people are just telling you to put on your kilt and do stuff and it's good advice. If you wore your kilt continuously then it would take less than a week for you to be completely at ease and not in the least self-conscious. Check out the threads here and see if you can find someone in your situation who took the plunge and regretted it.
1. Actually, the number of non-native English speakers I come into contact with that do know the word "kilt" is very high.
2. I mean, c'mon, in this day and age?
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5th November 14, 02:50 AM
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5th November 14, 03:03 AM
#24
 Originally Posted by Highwayman
To clarify, thank you for all the encouragement, but I'm more concerned about the 'You're wearing a skirt?' crowd than the Tartan Police. I've run into very few people who even know the word tartan, I'm more just getting used to the general public looking at me and integrating it in situations where it'll be best received.
Well, what I have experienced is that even though people do not know what is a tartan they expect that: "That skirt is colourful, has squares, user is a man and he has that funny bag hanging from the belt in front of him, so that skirt has to be a kilt or what ever it is the Scots use to wear". This happening in Finland, Estonia and Portugal. The (only) exception so far has been Riga in Latvia, where I gave them some occasions to laugh. Well, a good laugh every day keeps you healthy . None of those places have any tradition of kilt wearing.
Then there are some people who think they are funny with "the skirt is a female only garment". In that case I have either just laughed with them, or if they get a bit annoying, reminded them that only an infant thinks the garment defines the sex of a person, an adult would be able to define it even when someone is naked.
Last edited by Kylahullu; 5th November 14 at 03:15 AM.
If people did not sometimes do silly things, nothing intelligent would ever get done.
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5th November 14, 03:07 AM
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I have not read all the posts, but I think I have the gist of what has been said. I think that you have made a wise start in picking the time and place to start wearing the kilt and so far so good. I can't help but feel that a tartan kilt, armed with a we tad of knowledge about it, would be an easier route to take---certainly in Scotland-----as I think there is a good chance that more will recognise a tartan and give it some mild respect. Anyway, that is bye the bye, so what to do?How about going for a hike, or some such, where people are about, but not in great numbers? That may build your confidence up to the main event and in truth, as said above, wearing the kilt daily(even for an hour or two) for a week should get you well on your way to having complete confidence with kilt wearing.
You WILL get smart alec comments-----we get them in Scotland too------and you never know when, but sure as night follows day, they will come and if you can, ignore them and the comments WILL hurt, but for certain sure for every negative comment there will be at least a hundred positive ones. Go for it!
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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5th November 14, 06:15 AM
#26
I've only had one "Nice skirt" comment. I replied, "Did you think of that all by yourself?"
 Originally Posted by Alan H
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5th November 14, 07:28 AM
#27
I'll put in a different perspective, as I've done often before! I've been a kiltwearer for nearly 40 years now, due to being a piper.
I don't know if pipers are like this in other places around the world, but here in the USA serious competition pipers (solo and band) usually have an odd love/hate attitude towards the kilt.
They view Highland Dress as a necessary evil. They will delay putting on their outfit till the last possible moment, then tear it off as soon as possible after they play. I've heard pipers say countless times that they would much prefer being allowed to compete in ordinary clothes. So, these people only wear the kilt when required to do so, and tend to view people who wear kilts when not required as being eccentric. (In other words they are much like orchestral musicians who have to wear a tuxedo when they play, and who would find it odd were they to encounter a non-musician who wears a tuxedo when going shopping etc.)
Growing up with that attitude all around me (expressed by native Scot pipers as well as American ones) I tend to only wear Highland Dress when required, when piping. I'm at odds with my piping friends because I'll wear kilts at certain other occasions, say Scottish themed concerts and Highland Games and other events even when I'm not piping there. They all show up at such events in ordinary clothes.
I have absolutely nothing against people who wear kilts every day. Good for them! It does my heart good to see kilts in public, especially the rare sightings of traditional kilts. But it doesn't feel 'right' for me.
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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5th November 14, 07:44 AM
#28
 Originally Posted by Mikilt
I've only had one "Nice skirt" comment. I replied, "Did you think of that all by yourself?"
My remark is usually, "Yeah….I've never heard THAT one before."
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ANOTHER KILTED LEBOWSKI AND...HEY, CAREFUL, MAN, THERE'S A BEVERAGE HERE!
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5th November 14, 08:06 AM
#29
I know a few pipers here in the UK and while they do the full regalia for piping, thy're generally quite happy to wear the kilt when not piping as well.
Martin.
AKA - The Scouter in a Kilt.
Proud, but homesick, son of Skye.
Member of the Clan MacLeod Society (Scotland)
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5th November 14, 09:41 AM
#30
We have a mixed bag in my pipe band. Some are as you describe, Richard, and put the kilt on right before going to the circle and start unstrapping as soon as they're done. Others come to the event in kilt and stay in the kilt all day. A couple are regular kilt wearers outside piping.
I've found a new venue for wearing a kilt and that's "folk metal" rock concerts! Most of the kilts that you see are the cheap tat variety but there are a few good ones on show. In NYC we saw a guy with a good kilt and full mask sporran. I'll be wearing a USAKilts semi-trad to the next event I go to.
Last edited by PGH; 5th November 14 at 09:43 AM.
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