Piper's plaid/Full plaid with an Argyll jacket?

**puffer** · 28th January 09, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR

Well, actually, the gentleman on the left (to the right of my father) iswearing a pleated plaid. I have seen another photograph of him from the front.

There is some misunderstanding here: Most of the gentlemen with my father are wearing what some call a "laird's plaid." Gentlemen still wear them. In the 1930's, when the picture of my father at the Argyllshire Gathering was taken, full plaids were frequently worn, both in the day and in the evening. Gentlemen folded the plaids into pleats in the front part, but these pleats were not the pre-made pleats of perfect depth one sees usually on pipers today.

Here is the late McKerrell of Hillhouse:

His plaid is worn in this photograph with an open fronted doublet.

Here is another photograph, showing a full plaid:

As Louisville is in the grips of a horrific ice storm, and our power is off ( I'm on my laptop at my mother's ), I do not have ready access to the photo from Oban showing the full plaid with day wear. Suffice it to say, it is worn with a tweed doublet, with several buttons fastened. Not excessively cumbersome.

Kind regards,
Sandford MacLean

Thank you SIR. IYHO are the other "Laird Plaides simply being worn with out "pined pleats. & was this not the most common ??

Puffer

**JSFMACLJR** · 28th January 09, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by puffer

Thank you SIR. IYHO are the other "Laird Plaides simply being worn with out "pined pleats. & was this not the most common ??

Puffer

They are usually worn folded into a rectangle, as seen in the Argyllshire Gathering photo of my father, and worn on the left shoulder. If needed on account of the weather, they could be wrapped around, or draped, or used in whatever manner was useful and comfortable! They were not pleated, however.

Cheers,
Sandford

**puffer** · 28th January 09, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR

They are usually worn folded into a rectangle, as seen in the Argyllshire Gathering photo of my father, and worn on the left shoulder. If needed on account of the weather, they could be wrapped around, or draped, or used in whatever manner was useful and comfortable! They were not pleated, however.

Cheers,
Sandford

SIR, your Clarifican & athentication of the LAIRD PLAID, the wearing etal is GREATLY APRECIATED Thank you

Puffer

**Buckskin** · 28th January 09, 07:52 PM

The gentleman on the left in the group picture has his plaid fall off his RIGHT shoulder. Yea!! I'm not the only lefty in the world.

**JSFMACLJR** · 29th January 09, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by Buckskin

The gentleman on the left in the group picture has his plaid fall off his RIGHT shoulder. Yea!! I'm not the only lefty in the world.

More than likely his plaid is on his left shoulder, but he is wearing it draped somewhat across his back and somewhat over his right shoulder.

Sandford

**JSFMACLJR** · 29th January 09, 07:02 AM

There were no "fly plaids" amongst the gentry!

**Jack Daw** · 22nd September 09, 12:04 PM

A piper's plaid can be VERY uncomfortable and should only be worn by those of us who make strange noises with a wind-bag attached to 4 sticks of African blackwood.