Who designed Ghillie shoes

[English Bloke]

Sorry Ted but I nearly gave away the ending

[Bugbear]

There's an ending...?

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Keep in mind gentlemen, that a magazine article is not proof of any sort! There are no links to anything (if anything), Therefore (though I am not saying it) it is possible that MacMillan could make it up himself, but I highly doubt that.

Ah Ha! But I did make it up. It's a joke, and Rex, and Ted, and a whole bunch of other guys got it at once, and I'm sure you saw through it as well, although you were far too polite to point out what a bounder I must be to make sport of shoes with 30-inch laces!

[English Bloke]

There's an ending...?

Ah Ha! But I did make it up.

Yes Ted... That one!

[Rex_Tremende]

Realizing later that Andrew had the better business idea, Clarence, with the aid of a corset, diguises himself as an out of work chambermaid in order to see his brother to apologize. He sees that Andrew and his sister have fallen on hard times, and are gravely ill. Clarence shows them how long the laces are on his corset and offers them the chance to join him in a new business venture. The trio sing of forgiveness and family ties, and are soon joined by the rest of the household staff, now each wearing a brand new corset. But on the last, triumphant note, Andrew collapses.

The sister discloses that Clarence will inherit the fading business. Stiff-backed, Clarence vows to pull it together and henceforth becomes known a "tight lacer." Back at the corset factory, the entire company reprises the title song, "Family Ties," before the curtain comes down.

[Bugbear]

And thus concludes:

Gillis and Old Lace

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[Phil]

IMHO, MOST OF WHAT "MANY" TOUT as "TRADITIONAL SCOT'S WEAR" is of "LATE DATE" & HIGHLY ENGLISH INFLUENCED OR "CREATED" BY THEM.

1."CLAN TARTANS"
2."TRADITIONAL" 8 yard "Tanks"
3. "DRESS ATTIRE" (Jackets, ETC)
4. The "current" DRESS DIRK & SQIAN DUBH
5. ETC, ETC

Puffer

I would agree wholeheartedly with Puffer's statement here. Sadly what most people here regard as "Scottish" is largely a confection created for and by the English "new money" classes who populated the Highlands of Scotland, buying up huge swathes of land for the exclusive use of them and their guests to massacre every living thing in sight. The impetus for this was solely down to Queen Victoria and Prince Albert who embraced all things Scottish and bought a little holiday home (Balmoral Castle) on the banks of the river Dee. They were quickly followed by rich English industrialists etc., eager to join their monarch in this Highland idyll, never mind the poor locals whio just happened to live there. Their ancestral hunting and fishing rights were removed at a stroke to conform to the English practices of their new landlords (not Lairds but a whole different English-based relationship between owners and tenants). Take Lord Leverhume (Lever Bros. the soap/detergent people) buying and having sovereignty over a whole island and all of its people (Lewis). How does that appeal to today's egalitarian ideals? Of course they wanted the appropriate dress when visiting their Highland dominions so they got their tailors to run up kilts, jackets etc. - whatever seemed appropriate - and, of course they wanted to dress up with as much "bling" as possible hence the dirks, swords, sgian dhubhs, pistols, powder horns etc. ..etc... So, yes, pretty much everything seen today as "traditional" highland dress really goes back to those Englishmen who colonised the Highlands of Scotland, much as they colonised many other parts of the world. Why do you think that Scots are referred to as "Jocks?". Americans as "Yanks" and so many epithets such as "Frogs", "Eyties", "Dagoes", "Wops" the list is too long to mention but has its roots in a colonial superiority complex where anyone - and I mean ANYONE, who is not English is regarded as a member of an inferior race.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Hold on. Steady there. You have overlooked the fact that the Spanish, Portuguese, German, Dutch, French, Belgians, and even the Italians, all had empires of varying sizes and shapes over the years, and all of them referred to the "natives" by nick-names, not always politically correct. To ascribe this practice soley to the English, is way out of court.

If, as you say, the modern day kilt, and all that goes with it, is an English invention, and clearly that English connection seems to bother you greatly, might I suggest you abandon the kilt in all of it's forms and find some mode of dress that will be less distressing to your feelings regarding the English?

And, just for your edification, "Yank" is short for "Yankee" a term used by the well-established Dutch settlers, in what became New York, to describe the recently arrived English colonists who were settling in the Hudson River Valley.

[Panache]

XMTS is an international forum with a diverse membership

Members will show consideration and respect for one another here on the forum.

If this thread becomes political or offensive it will be locked or pulled

Respectfully

Jamie

[macwilkin]

Hold on. Steady there. You have overlooked the fact that the Spanish, Portuguese, German, Dutch, French, Belgians, and even the Italians, all had empires of varying sizes and shapes over the years, and all of them referred to the "natives" by nick-names, not always politically correct. To ascribe this practice soley to the English, is way out of court.

If, as you say, the modern day kilt, and all that goes with it, is an English invention, and clearly that English connection seems to bother you greatly, might I suggest you abandon the kilt in all of it's forms and find some mode of dress that will be less distressing to your feelings regarding the English?

And, just for your edification, "Yank" is short for "Yankee" a term used by the well-established Dutch settlers, in what became New York, to describe the recently arrived English colonists who were settling in the Hudson River Valley.

Spot on, Scott.

T.