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1st August 09, 11:04 PM
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It's Hot Out There! (Couple of Kilt Observations)
It's been up around 118+ degrees F over here in the low Arizona desert; I think that's around 48 degrees C. Thankfully, it has not been very humid for the last several days. During this I have been able to test a few things with my kilts.
First, I can report that removing all of the excess, internal fabric from the pleats above the fell area (sometimes called "pillow butt") on my eight yard, wool kilt in the conversion from casual to traditional made a huge, huge difference. There was a lot of materiel stacked up around the waist/hip area, and it did trap a lot of heat especially in the belt area. I now have first hand experience of "before and after" with that excess fabric and understand some of the reasons why it is removed on a traditional, eight yard kilt.
It's a big big plus for the traditional and non-casual kilts without all that excess materiel in the heat, but also any kilt without all the layers up above the fell area. BTW, Lewis hose aren't bad, it's the shoes that get very hot, but that is a different issue.
* MAJOR DISCLAIMER: I'm not suggesting that anyone should do that to a "pillow butt" kilt unless at least first doing a whole bunch of study on how a traditional kilt is constructed and lots of sewing practice; However, it might be something to keep in mind when trying to decide which kind of kilt to buy in relation to hot weather. Otherwise, you might as well just buy Barb's book and make your own traditional kilt. *
Switching Types of Kilt: With my cotton kilt, I am usually wearing it in place of a pair of shorts. I can say it is more comfortable to walk around in than shorts like the denim shorts. The air flow is noticeably better. The heavy canvas waistband does add a bit of thickness, and I wear my shirt on the inside of the kilt. I didn't notice a huge issue with heat trapping in that area, but a little of that seems to go on.
I also notice something interesting while standing out in the sun. The heat from the direct sunlight does transfer to a noticeable degree through the fabric of the shorts, which is directly against my skin in several places. The fabric on the kilt isn't always touching my skin down at my legs, and the multiple layers of fabric don't seem to transfer the heat from the direct sunlight. I do my best to stay out of the direct sunlight, but it is an interesting effect of the loose layers of fabric. I think this type of kilt does a pretty good job of replacing shorts, and it's also nice for walking around the yard and so on in the evening when it's cooled down a little.
Last edited by Bugbear; 2nd August 09 at 03:35 AM.
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2nd August 09, 03:46 AM
#2
Interesting observations Ted. Yesterday at the zoo I was questioned about the heat from man in shorts, I explained that a breeze is a wonderful thing and that in my experience it was cooler to wear a kilt than shorts, he seemed to understand.
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2nd August 09, 04:07 AM
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118+ degrees! Good lord Ted, I would die!
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2nd August 09, 04:14 AM
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
118+ degrees! Good lord Ted, I would die!
I'm getting too hot just reading about it! Sometimes there is something to be said for good old rainy Britain.
Regards
Chas
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2nd August 09, 01:49 PM
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
118+ degrees! Good lord Ted, I would die!
This, my friend, is why I like my Amerikilt. It gets pretty warm in Denver, too, and nothing is as comfortable as a kilt in the heat. Like Ted said, heat doesn't transfer nearly as quickly from a kilt hanging at your side as it does from material right against your skin. Even a wool kilt is better. I wore my Albannach tartan 13 oz wool kilt to the Colorado Renaissance Festival yesterday. With not a cloud in sight, the heat soared into the 90's- which I know is a far cry from 118, but still quite warm. The kilt was so much better. I was sitting in the grass, watching the first joust of the day, and after it was over, I stood up and the material brushed against my legs. It was hot. But I was still comfortable. I gave it a little thought and figured that it was just because the kilt provided natural shade. Reading Teds post, I realize that he's absolutely right! Ted, you're brilliant.
 Originally Posted by Ted Crocker
I need to get a giant sombrero. 
I was thinking something similar- I want a nice fedora.
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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2nd August 09, 02:07 PM
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
118+ degrees! Good lord Ted, I would die!
I was in Phoenix in June 26, 1990 when it reached 122 degrees. 
T.
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2nd August 09, 03:59 PM
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 Originally Posted by cajunscot
I was in Phoenix in June 26, 1990 when it reached 122 degrees.
T.
I was in Greece when they had their heatwave. Daytime temps were only between 109 and 112 degrees F, but people (mainly tourists) were dropping like flies. I think, I will always remember a taxi pulling up at the Acropolis and the taxi driver finding that his three passengers were dead. They had died in the car in the 10 minute ride from the hotel. I have been a great believer in hat wearing since then.
Regards
Chas
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2nd August 09, 04:09 PM
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 Originally Posted by Chas
I think, I will always remember a taxi pulling up at the Acropolis and the taxi driver finding that his three passengers were dead. They had died in the car in the 10 minute ride from the hotel. I have been a great believer in hat wearing since then.
Regards
Chas
Holy Sun-baked Senior Citizens, Batman!
The spirit of the Declaration of Arbroath (6 April 1320) abides today, defiantly resisting any tyranny that would disarm, disperse and despoil proud people of just morals, determined to keep the means of protecting their families and way of life close at hand.
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2nd August 09, 07:21 PM
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
118+ degrees! Good lord Ted, I would die!
Before I had been to AZ, I used to believe this too. I knew how uncomfortable I am during the summer in Ohio when it gets to 90 degrees. But the lack of humidity makes a huge difference. It's hot, but not really all that uncomfortable. I spent a week in Yuma where it was in the low triple digits every day this summer and - as long as I had some shade - it was easily tolerable. In the Tombstone area - where I spent the next week - it was a smidge cooler (still +100) but far more comfortable. Just a wide-brimmed hat to keep the sun off, and it was fine. I drank a ton of water, but I was sweating less than I do back here in Ohio, and was way more comfortable.
It's not as bad as you might expect going in, and it's the lack of humidity that makes all the difference.
I bet a lightweight contemporary kilt would work great in the desert (as long as there's no sandstorm!).
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3rd August 09, 10:44 AM
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 Originally Posted by Chas
I was in Greece when they had their heatwave. Daytime temps were only between 109 and 112 degrees F, but people (mainly tourists) were dropping like flies. I think, I will always remember a taxi pulling up at the Acropolis and the taxi driver finding that his three passengers were dead. They had died in the car in the 10 minute ride from the hotel. I have been a great believer in hat wearing since then.
Regards
Chas
Terrible tale! but I'm confused as to how a hat would have helped in that situation.
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