Kilts @ H&M

[thescot]

Looks like girl clothes.

I hope I don't even see someone wearing such a thing in public. I fear it will be associated with real kilts and give us all a bad name. This is strictly for cross-dressing, I think.

[Heming]

If cross dressing means dressing up to make me cross, you're right on the number.

That's just silly. Someone should know better. I hope I never meet one alive, I wont be nice.

[Monkey@Arms]

Looks like girl clothes.

I hope I don't even see someone wearing such a thing in public. I fear it will be associated with real kilts and give us all a bad name. This is strictly for cross-dressing, I think.

If cross dressing means dressing up to make me cross, you're right on the number.

That's just silly. Someone should know better. I hope I never meet one alive, I wont be nice.

Not sure I understand the level of hostility being expressed toward potential purchasers, and I personally don't find it becoming. H&M is a big international retail chain, not some seller of kinky goods. Yeah, these fashions might not appeal to you (or perhaps me) but as I frequently say, if you don't like it, don't wear it.

Its not as if someone is forcing you to buy these outfits, or they are trying to mock Highland dress. A lot of things people wear aren't for me, including some depicted on these forums. Need I point out that there are plenty of people who think kilt wearers of all stripes (or should I say "plaids") look funny too?

Tolerance folks.

Best regards,

Jake

[MartinGrenoble]

I fear it will be associated with real kilts and give us all a bad name. This is strictly for cross-dressing, I think.

If someone frequents this forum, he presumably wears an unbifurcated garment from time to time. whether it has stripes or tartan or is plain makes little difference. It is a skirt. A skirt does not mean "cross-dressing". It is the attitude of the wearer and his general bearing that make the difference.
You can either stand up straight, stride out and show who is boss, or you can act silly, giggle, smother yourself in make-up -- and wear trousers, too.

What a strange mind-set that thinks what you wear is more important than what you do.

I wear woolen tartan all winter. Am I suddenly cross-dressing when summer comes and I change into plain cotton?

Martin

[GG]

Looks like girl clothes.

I fear it will be associated with real kilts and give us all a bad name.

The H&M 2010 "kilt" can to my opinion not be associated with a traditional tartan kilt. There is very little resemblance.

Whether it shall be regarded a cross dresser item or not shall probably depend on WHO will buy and wear the H&M "kilt". Should consumers be non-CD-types, I cannot see any problems. On the contrary, should these "kilts" be generally accepted, a traditional kilt could here after be worn anywhere, at any time.

By the way, I suppose that cross dressers - whatever definition we use - are already customers with H&M and other stores selling female garments.

I may be wrong but till further I'm positive.

Greg

[timseh]

Well said, sir.

If someone frequents this forum, he presumably wears an unbifurcated garment from time to time. whether it has stripes or tartan or is plain makes little difference. It is a skirt. A skirt does not mean "cross-dressing". It is the attitude of the wearer and his general bearing that make the difference.
You can either stand up straight, stride out and show who is boss, or you can act silly, giggle, smother yourself in make-up -- and wear trousers, too.

What a strange mind-set that thinks what you wear is more important than what you do.

I wear woolen tartan all winter. Am I suddenly cross-dressing when summer comes and I change into plain cotton?

Martin

[JRB]

Fail!!!

[Nighthawk]

Fail!!!

Very perfectly phrased!

Or as my son said... "Are they wearing tights under them? Those are ugly! Who the heck made those?!?!"

[pdcorlis]

Oh goody! Kilts as "Fashion" photos - where's Alan? I can't wait for him to see this thread he's gonna blow a gasket.

:ootd:

[thescot]

Not sure I understand the level of hostility being expressed toward potential purchasers, and I personally don't find it becoming. . . .

There is a great difference between hostility and disdain or dismissal. The outfit shown is akin to the things one sees on the runways of high fashion designers made of feathers and celophane. I don't really care to see them either; they're just silly looking. I was not being hostile; it was a high level of dimissive laughter. Lighten up.

I personally don't find the outfit becoming, and do not think it a kilt. In fact it is identical to an outfit my granddaughter (aged 2 1/2) wears which also has pleats in the front and leggings, only hers is not black and lacks that sassy, flirtatious slit up the side. Ooh, lah, lah.

Still looks like girl clothes.

Wadded underthings on the part of anyone who equates any "unbifurcated" garment with a kilt does not make it a kilt either. And there is, as was once clearly stated on the home page of this site, a huge difference between kilts and skirts. Reductio ad absurdum of a rather innocuous off-handed comment does not make the comment hostile.

And if anyone wants to cross dress, I'll certainly stand up for his right to do so--have at it. I don't care. But it's not necessarily wise or correct to inaacurately assign lack of tolerance to another, especially one who practices tolerance on an daily basis. Perhaps a lack of tolerance for folks who don't share your own opinion is a proper subject for introspection. But that's another thread.

Here's what it says on our homepage: "This is not a forum for men looking to wear womens clothing nor is it a forum for other types of men's un-bifurbricated garments."