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9th August 11, 04:27 AM
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8th August 11, 05:25 PM
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 Originally Posted by spglenn
I got a comment from a straight English friend that I shouldn't be wearing the kilt at pride as it would make people associate it with gay men.
Perhaps it would be useful to remind your straight friend that people, regardless of their orientation are going to wear what they're going to wear, and trying to convince them not to, especially due to one's own sensitivities is likely going to have the opposite effect than intended.
Conversely, I'm not about to stop wearing my black, leather pants just because someone MIGHT think I'm gay. If they think I'm something I'm not, that's THEIR problem and no one else's.
Telling someone to abstain from wearing a kilt at a pride parade because people might start associating it with only a gay man's article of clothing is about as ridiculous as someone telling their little girl that she shouldn't draw rainbows because people might think she's a lesbian. It's about that silly.
As a straight, married man, I can only say that I appreciate the efforts of the LGBT movement very much. It has had a profound, positive effect on many straight people -- where even we can reap the benefits. It has helped bring about a new sexual revolution, not unlike the women's liberation movement of the 1970s and 80s that gave people the freedom to explore sexuality much more freely, while reminding the morality police that gay or straight, what happened in other peoples' bedrooms was none of their business! The LGBT movement helps teach tolerance and what it really means to say that you stand for equality and freedom for ALL people, and not just a privileged few who fall in between certain lines of acceptance. (I won't say any more as I don't want to get political).
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8th August 11, 06:33 PM
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 Originally Posted by CDNSushi
Perhaps it would be useful to remind your straight friend that people, regardless of their orientation are going to wear what they're going to wear, and trying to convince them not to, especially due to one's own sensitivities is likely going to have the opposite effect than intended.
Conversely, I'm not about to stop wearing my black, leather pants just because someone MIGHT think I'm gay. If they think I'm something I'm not, that's THEIR problem and no one else's.
Telling someone to abstain from wearing a kilt at a pride parade because people might start associating it with only a gay man's article of clothing is about as ridiculous as someone telling their little girl that she shouldn't draw rainbows because people might think she's a lesbian. It's about that silly.
As a straight, married man, I can only say that I appreciate the efforts of the LGBT movement very much. It has had a profound, positive effect on many straight people -- where even we can reap the benefits. It has helped bring about a new sexual revolution, not unlike the women's liberation movement of the 1970s and 80s that gave people the freedom to explore sexuality much more freely, while reminding the morality police that gay or straight, what happened in other peoples' bedrooms was none of their business! The LGBT movement helps teach tolerance and what it really means to say that you stand for equality and freedom for ALL people, and not just a privileged few who fall in between certain lines of acceptance. (I won't say any more as I don't want to get political).
Thank you, CDNSushi, your post means a lot.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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9th August 11, 03:34 AM
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Actually the picture that the comment was made about was this one.

So I'd best avoid straight friends wearing a Pride Flag like a sarong lol.
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1st January 12, 07:05 AM
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Re: Wearing my with pride at Pride
Wear whatever you like, whenever you like. They are his blinkers not yours. (Personally I'm ever so intolerant towards the intolerant.)
 Originally Posted by Schiehallion
This year I shall be at Manchester Pride over the August Bank Holiday.
Manchester Pride is 17-27 Aug (Just googled it) and I'm on-shift for all of that, otherwise I would have loved to come down with my wife for another meet-up. Kilted of course. I really did enjoy meeting you at Harpenden and would love to see your group.
As an aside, I think pride is a great thing and I echo the sentiments of others with regard to freedoms for ALL.
 Originally Posted by CDNSushi
I can only say that I appreciate the efforts of the LGBT movement very much... ... reminding the morality police that gay or straight, what happened in other peoples' bedrooms was none of their business! The LGBT movement helps teach tolerance and what it really means to say that you stand for equality and freedom for ALL people, and not just a privileged few who fall in between certain lines of acceptance. ...
Hear hear!! Well said.

Isn't this picture ACE!!
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3rd January 12, 09:37 AM
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Re: Wearing my with pride at Pride
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
To me, his comment is ridiculous and senseless, and unworthy of any sort of response.
You look great in a kilt. Wear it often!
You ever hear of a kid named Mathew Shepherd? He was a gay college student who was beaten to death for his sexual orientation in Wyoming. So there is some sense to it, and I can see his point of view. He's afraid of the prejudice, which in the modern climate where there is a great deal of homophobia, is a legitimate fear. I agree with everything that's been said here. I'm a pagan minister, and my wedding coordinator friend has actually put in our promo material that we cater to the bi/gay/lesbian/transgendered community. I personally am fully in favor of equal rights for everyone, and in that spirit have participated in the Colorado pride parades. But as I said, I can agree with everything that's been said in this thread. I can see where your friend is coming from. There is an irritating misconception that the wearing of the kilt is the same as a desire to cross dress, and I can see where your friend would have the idea that seeing a kilt in a Pride parade would reinforce that misconception. That honestly is the reason that Pride events are the occasions where I am not kilted. I see no sense in validating incorrect stereotypes. Am I right in feeling this way? I don't know. Am I trying to sway you one or the other? Not at all. I'm just trying to give food for thought.
Last edited by Nighthawk; 3rd January 12 at 09:44 AM.
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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9th August 11, 04:55 AM
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I am always kilted at Pride Parades. This year I shall be at Manchester Pride over the August Bank Holiday . I have been in the London, Brighton, Manchester, Edinburgh and Rome Prides and worn my kilt with pride. I hope you saw a group of Gay Gordons the LGBT Scottish Country Dance group at Belfast Pride this year??
Yes it is your friend who has the problem and isn't it good that you have all this support from both Gay and Straight XMTS guys and gals.
Thanks for showing your support. I applaud you all.
Schiehallion kilted and true
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9th August 11, 05:15 AM
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Yeah I saw the Gay Gordons at Belfast
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16th August 11, 05:36 AM
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 Originally Posted by spglenn
I got a comment from a straight English friend that I shouldn't be wearing the kilt at pride as it would make people associate it with gay men.
To me, his comment is ridiculous and senseless, and unworthy of any sort of response.
You look great in a kilt. Wear it often!
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4th January 12, 11:53 AM
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Re: Wearing my with pride at Pride
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
To me, his comment is ridiculous and senseless, and unworthy of any sort of response.
You look great in a kilt. Wear it often!
Spot on Richard!
Cheers,
Michael
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