Does anyone make this style coatee?

[SlackerDrummer]

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[McMurdo]

I think this may help clarify a bit, below is a definition of Highland Doublet from wikipedia:

Doublet is also a term describing a type of jacket worn with formal highland dress. This garment is similar to a mess jacket, with buttoned gauntlet cuffs, short or no skirts, and with or without lapels. It may have a row of silver heraldic buttons on each side. It may be worn with a lace jabot and cuff set, and a high-buttoned waistcoat. It is typically made of velvet or wool, with satin lapels, and may feature epaulettes. The highland doublet is jacobean in style and may date to that period or earlier.

[MacLowlife]

It seems to me, more so than ever, that there is a continuum of jacket styles, perhaps not a straight line, but one with the occasional branch, (but still a range) from double breasted to single breasted and closed to single breasted and open fronted, and even to double breasted yet open fronted. Collars can be high, low, folded, or omitted entirely. So can lapels. Cuffs and tashes, buttons and buttonholes, all come and go. Some jackets can be worn more than one way- and we occasionally see pictures, especially on eBay, of jackets that are worn the wrong way.

Those in the business of selling jackets will have names for them. This helps to sell them. Those in the business of MAKING them may be less concerned about what a jacket-doublet-coatee-tunic is called and more about what the buyer wants it to look like and how it fits. And those who can have a jacket made need not worry about what to call it, other than their own.

I think we have established that someone can make this jacket and that others have similar ones, but also that its exact duplicate has not become common enough to merit a name. We have seen some interesting jackets and learned some interesting history along the way.

I hope the OP has the answer he was seeking.

[KiltedSurveyor]

Is it possible that the jacket is similar to a double-breasted jacket? It is possible to imagine a jacket where the right lapel (the one with the buttons) actually has working button holes. In colder weather, you could undo the right lapel, tuck it under the left lapel, and button the left lapel on the buttons you could see. When not that cold, the buttons could keep the right lapel from flapping about. Not really up on the history of doublets, but I was looking for a practical use of the buttons, or a least where the idea of the buttons on that side came from.

[Ancienne Alliance]

Yes, Lady Chrystel was my first thought on reproducing this. I should start saving now...

I agree.

Best,

Robert

[davidg]

It is possible to imagine a jacket where the right lapel (the one with the buttons) actually has working button holes. In colder weather, you could undo the right lapel, tuck it under the left lapel, and button the left lapel on the buttons you could see. When not that cold, the buttons could keep the right lapel from flapping about.

I had wondered exactly the same thing myself, and even that there might be a matching set of buttons hidden under the buttonholes on the other side, but there is little evidence to support that. There is no obvious buttonhole showing in the blown up image under each button and only the top two or three buttons could possibly fasten given the curvature of the front of the jacket

Still a possibility though

[Ancienne Alliance]

It is possible.


Best,

Robert

[Zardoz]

I looks to me like a late 1700s style 'sleeved waistcoat' with a few Highland touches, you could base one on something like this; http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...roducts_id=833 Just add the cuffs, some trim, and a mess of buttons...

I always look at these paintings with a mental grain of salt, how much was from life, and how much artist's fantasy, we don't know.

[Tobus]

It seems to me, more so than ever, that there is a continuum of jacket styles, perhaps not a straight line, but one with the occasional branch, (but still a range) from double breasted to single breasted and closed to single breasted and open fronted, and even to double breasted yet open fronted. Collars can be high, low, folded, or omitted entirely. So can lapels. Cuffs and tashes, buttons and buttonholes, all come and go. Some jackets can be worn more than one way- and we occasionally see pictures, especially on eBay, of jackets that are worn the wrong way.

Those in the business of selling jackets will have names for them. This helps to sell them. Those in the business of MAKING them may be less concerned about what a jacket-doublet-coatee-tunic is called and more about what the buyer wants it to look like and how it fits. And those who can have a jacket made need not worry about what to call it, other than their own.

I think we have established that someone can make this jacket and that others have similar ones, but also that its exact duplicate has not become common enough to merit a name. We have seen some interesting jackets and learned some interesting history along the way.

I hope the OP has the answer he was seeking.

Yes, thank you everyone, it pretty much answers my questions*. To sum up, this is a rather unique jacket variation, utilising individual items from various known styles, but put together in a combination that hasn't necessarily been duplicated anywhere that we know of.

I have indeed learned a lot, as well as having been exposed to more terminology and visual styles than I was aware of. I think your statement about style being not a straight line, but rather a series of branches, is spot on. This appears to be one branch that ended.

Now the question is whether I want to attempt to replicate this particular style. And yes, I think I'm interested enough that I will be contacting Lady Chrystel to find out more!

*All questions have been answered except the last one I posed. Given the construction and style of this jacket, would it be more suited to daywear or formal attire? Or both? Consider that it has square metal buttons and tashes (Inverness flaps), giving it a more dressy or formal style. But being (presumably) made of a lovely green wool with rather normal-shaped lapels but having no collar, its style could also be very visually suitable for less-than-formal occasions. Opinions?

[CMcG]

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*All questions have been answered except the last one I posed. Given the construction and style of this jacket, would it be more suited to daywear or formal attire? Or both? Consider that it has square metal buttons and tashes (Inverness flaps), giving it a more dressy or formal style. But being (presumably) made of a lovely green wool with rather normal-shaped lapels but having no collar, its style could also be very visually suitable for less-than-formal occasions. Opinions?

If the wool were fine green barathea, I'd say a jacket like that would be quite formal by today's standards. It would resemble other doublets without falling into any named type, which would mean it would be suitable for black or white tie events.

If on the other hand, it were done in a coarser green tweed, I feel like it would bring down the level of formality. This would put it about on the same level as a dress Argyll: suitable for formal daywear, dressy evening wear, or black tie. I believe Matt Newsome has a Sherriffmuir done up in grey tweed, as an example.