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5th November 14, 08:41 AM
#31
Originally Posted by RockyR
The problem with America's "representation" in the rest of the world is that they get our BAD TV Shows, which highlights the dregs of our society. When we were in Ireland and Scotland, we would see American TV shows like Jerry Springer, Maury, Judge Joe Brown, Judge Judy, etc. These shows, while entertaining, give the impression to less discerning individuals that "all Americans are like that".
Please know, we are not and that we here in America generally look down on those shows as 'drivel' at worst and / or mindless entertainment at best. It's not taken seriously here and is a shame that this is what's 'exported' from our country.
HOPEFULLY the DD series won't be exported. If it is, I sincerely apologize on behalf of those who are embarrassed by this.
Parallel... it's kind of like having a weird uncle who is coming to Christmas dinner at your girlfriend's parent house. All we can do is cringe and apologize and hope they don't think less of the rest of us.
Don't worry, we get quality American TV shows as well as the drivel, and we're quite able to distinguish between the two. I looked at the Google Images for 'Duck Dynasty' and saw all I needed to see.
As an aside, I find TV completely unwatchable in the USA. It's so hard to find quality content, and when one does, it's 75% adverts and political campaign messages. When in the States, I make sure to have a good amount of reading material with me.
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5th November 14, 09:04 AM
#32
I'm less concerned about Scots seeing it and judging Americans by the content -- with any luck, Calgacus sets the norm for that possibility.
I'm rather concerned about the stereotypical/Brigadoonery image of Scotland/kilts/bagpipes that DD may present to U.S. viewers.
But I suppose both nations will survive the indignities.
Proudly Duncan [maternal], MacDonald and MacDaniel [paternal].
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5th November 14, 09:33 AM
#33
I, for one, am proud to hail from both a nation and a state capable of producing men the likes of Phil Robertson.
Throughout history and indeed in many countries today, it was/is nearly impossible for those born to the common or “peasant” class/caste to ever amount to anything beyond commoner or peasant. Fairly recently, a few nations have evolved social orders that allow hard-working, determined and passionate men and women to rise above the conditions of their birth. While I myself have largely squandered the gift of opportunity offered by one such social order, I remain nonetheless proud and fortunate to have been birthed in just such a nation.
I beg readers to consider the following:
- Phil Robertson's story is one of Rags-to-Riches. Through determination and a strong work ethic he was able to turn his passion into a multimillion dollar enterprise that employs dozens (and indirectly, hundreds!) of people that is now run by one of his sons. It is my earnest wish that ALL such passionate and determined people could do the same! Even kilt-makers!
- Phil's story is one of personal redemption. While I profess no particular faith, reason requires me to admit that a little religion is good for some people. Mr. Robertson began his life in a way all to similar to a great many from this part of the world: he was a hard drinking, hard drugging and hard loving young man destined to a life of destitution, incarceration, self-destruction and an early grave. However, through his Christian faith, he was able to find his way out of the dark and into the light and is today a highly respected pillar of his community. Far from a source of embarrassment, he is in my opinion a man to be admired.
While I certainly disagree with many of his opinions, I hope (pray?) that I live long enough to become even half the man that he is.
Finally, if you have never seen the show, I respectfully request that you either temper your opinions or withhold them altogether until after having done so. Should you despise it/them anyway, then so be it. At least, you'll be able to speak with some authority on the subject! I further understand that many of you cannot do this.
With respect and apologies to those offended, someone had to "step up" in defense of these people, even if some of you still hate the TV show! Who better for this unenviable task than another "Bayou Boy?"
Regards,
"[Felicia Day] told me how she'd created this character who was the leader of a rival guild. 'He's a douche-bag in a kilt,' she said. That was pretty much all I needed to hear and I signed on immediately!" - Wil Wheaton
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5th November 14, 10:05 AM
#34
Sorry….I've seen plenty of evidence that the Robertsons are affecting the "bayou boy" personas and that it's all more of a marketing ploy than anything else.
Glad they're doing well…I don't hunt ducks so it really doesn't affect me. Also glad if Phil has found some kind of personal redemption through his faith…if he choses that path, it's okay with me. If he wants to take advantage of his "bully pulpit" of a cable TV show to espouse points of view that I find racist, sexist or homophobic….THEN it's not okay with me especially since the whole TV enterprise looks like it's a contrived exercise because you're not going to tune in to see a bunch of guys in shirts and ties selling duck calls no matter what kind of redemption they've attained.
You're all welcome to your own opinions about these guys….that's mine. You can defend them….I won't.
Best,
AA
ANOTHER KILTED LEBOWSKI AND...HEY, CAREFUL, MAN, THERE'S A BEVERAGE HERE!
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5th November 14, 10:22 AM
#35
After hours chanting my new mantra and reading the new posts, I can add this in retrospect. Andy Griffin and his "Aunt Bee" (both Carolina natives) were good for the image of fine, upstanding, down-home people. I did not feel diminished by their TV antics, even when I was judged by their behavior and expected to be like them when I was stationed overseas in the military (forty years ago). I survived unscathed "Ya'll". I will be "kilting" on in the future proudly, regardless.
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5th November 14, 02:54 PM
#36
Originally Posted by auld argonian
If he wants to take advantage of his "bully pulpit" of a cable TV show to espouse points of view that I find racist, sexist or homophobic….THEN it's not okay with me especially since the whole TV enterprise looks like it's a contrived exercise because you're not going to tune in to see a bunch of guys in shirts and ties selling duck calls no matter what kind of redemption they've attained.
This.
Not that these guys filming a season of bad reality tv in Scotland will suddenly convince the entire country that the US is full of racist scumbags, but still. I just hate the lowest common denominator aspect of shows like this, with personalities like them, and would like to see it all just stop.
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5th November 14, 04:24 PM
#37
The first thing I thought of is "are they going to hunt in Scotland?"
The problem with American TV is the scourge of "reality TV". It isn't reality and it isn't worth watching. And props to the Robertsons. They are an outlyer in the reality TV genre that stands for something wholesome and moral which is completely appealing as opposed to seeing idiot people, half naked, being sexual, ,disrespectful, and cursing like Devil spawns. I was really really skeptical before watching DD. Now, I feel they are good people who won't let the TV networks censor their faith and morals. They advocate family values, togetherness, respect for their parents, standards for their children, etc. They usually even pray together at the end of their show. That doesn't sound too bad does it? The other options are "Big Brother", "Survivor", "Going Gotti", "Honey Boo-Boo". Come on! I wanna gouge my eyes out.
They are buffoons at times and quite horrible at acting. Blame the genre. I'm sure they might make themselves look bad but not at all representative to every redneck (thinking of the episode where Willy wore the Hawaiian kimono). At least they will bring some type of good moral message and its something you and your kids can watch together.
Cheers,
KC
"Never rise to speak till you have something to say; and when you have said it, cease."-John Knox Witherspoon
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5th November 14, 04:28 PM
#38
My wife would likely say, "What's not to like about a bearded man in a kilt? Win-win!"
KC
"Never rise to speak till you have something to say; and when you have said it, cease."-John Knox Witherspoon
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5th November 14, 06:36 PM
#39
Originally Posted by HixwithanX
SNIP.....
Finally, if you have never seen the show, I respectfully request that you either temper your opinions or withhold them altogether until after having done so. Should you despise it/them anyway, then so be it. At least, you'll be able to speak with some authority on the subject! I further understand that many of you cannot do this.
With respect and apologies to those offended, someone had to "step up" in defense of these people, even if some of you still hate the TV show! Who better for this unenviable task than another "Bayou Boy?"
Regards,
I have caught the show twice. We were approached by a production company looking to make a show about kilts with a "Duck Dynasty slant", so I watched the show. It is pretty obvious it's "outlined" (I won't call it scripted) and the plot is nothing very cerebral. The one plot I remember was about who could eat the most ice cream. Riveting.
Frankly, if the show was about rags to riches and how they work HARD every day (not find new ways to slack off), get things done, moved their industry forward and showed why they were the best at what they do, I might watch.
I am not saying anything about them as humans, but as entertainment, it is not my cup of tea, and that's about as polite as I can be.
Last edited by RockyR; 5th November 14 at 06:40 PM.
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5th November 14, 07:36 PM
#40
Rocky, the rags to riches side of their story was exactly what the dad, Phil Robertson accomplished. Most don't know that he was a starting quarterback over Terry Bradshaw. Instead, he wanted to hunt ducks rather than play in the NFL. Consequently, he made and started his multimillion dollar company. Ironic. Now, the sons run the company behind the script. They are smarter than they look…or act on the show.
Cheers,
KC
"Never rise to speak till you have something to say; and when you have said it, cease."-John Knox Witherspoon
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